Where to buy extra long wheel studs?
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Where to buy extra long wheel studs?
Looking to buy longer wheel studs to run with the spacers I am going to be running on my car and can't seem to find any longer than 2.75". From what I've gathered, the stock studs are 1.75", so if I am runnin 30mm spacers in the rear, the 2.75" studs probably won't be long enough to run safely especially since the studs come with "Speed Tips" where the last .25" is turned down to help the lug nuts start. The fronts should be fine since I'm going to run 15mm spacers, but I'm thinking I'll really need 3" or 3.25" studs for the rear. One thing I did notice was that ARP does make a 3.25" M12x1.5 stud for Honda/Acura, would this stud work? Anyways, if anyone could point me in a right direction I'd be really appreciative. Thanks guys!
http://www.arp-bolts.com/catalog/Cat...talog_0066.pdf
Miata Accessories from Pure Miata - ARP Wheel Studs for 1990-1993 Miata # pm_whlstuds_9093
Applied Racing TechSpec Miata Speed Tip Wheel Studs-SafeRacer
https://appliedracingtechnology.ipower.com/products.php
http://www.jegs.com/i/ARP/070/100-77...oductId=747558
http://www.arp-bolts.com/catalog/Cat...talog_0066.pdf
Miata Accessories from Pure Miata - ARP Wheel Studs for 1990-1993 Miata # pm_whlstuds_9093
Applied Racing TechSpec Miata Speed Tip Wheel Studs-SafeRacer
https://appliedracingtechnology.ipower.com/products.php
http://www.jegs.com/i/ARP/070/100-77...oductId=747558
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Would a bolt on spacer be a better route to take?
One where you use your existing studs to bolt the spacer to your hub, then 90 degrees off from that spacer are new set of studs that are made into the new spacer... I know they have been pictured on here before.
I would imagine that mount to be more fixed than 3 mile long studs out from a hub.
Just my thoughts.
goodluck
Would a bolt on spacer be a better route to take?
One where you use your existing studs to bolt the spacer to your hub, then 90 degrees off from that spacer are new set of studs that are made into the new spacer... I know they have been pictured on here before.
I would imagine that mount to be more fixed than 3 mile long studs out from a hub.
Just my thoughts.
goodluck
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My thoughts exactly.
The one thing I noticed wrong in sketches above is that the spacers I was talking about are both hubcentric and wheel centric. Therefore the studs are not solely responsible for supporting the weight of the car and the rotational forces of the car while it is being driven. With the style spacer I was refering to, I would think that the hub would take on the majority of the stress vs the lugs which would just be holding the wheel on, not supporting the weight of the car. The only increase in stress on the lugs that I can think of would be the rotational forces from accelerating and decelerating since the wheel would be located further out on the studs. Even with this in mind though, I dont think this would cause any rise for concern since these forces probably wouldn't even be applied to the studs since the wheel would be clamped to the hub with 80+ft.lbs per stud....I'm thinking any forces would be applied to the hub as a whole. The picture below kind of explains my thoughts based off the custom spacers from Motorsport-Tech where the hubcentric "inside" bore would be 54.1mm (Stock miata) and the wheel centric bore on the outside would be 67.1mm for the 6ul. Any one else have some insight on this subject?
We manufacture the best Wheel Spacers money can buy | Motorsport Technology
The one thing I noticed wrong in sketches above is that the spacers I was talking about are both hubcentric and wheel centric. Therefore the studs are not solely responsible for supporting the weight of the car and the rotational forces of the car while it is being driven. With the style spacer I was refering to, I would think that the hub would take on the majority of the stress vs the lugs which would just be holding the wheel on, not supporting the weight of the car. The only increase in stress on the lugs that I can think of would be the rotational forces from accelerating and decelerating since the wheel would be located further out on the studs. Even with this in mind though, I dont think this would cause any rise for concern since these forces probably wouldn't even be applied to the studs since the wheel would be clamped to the hub with 80+ft.lbs per stud....I'm thinking any forces would be applied to the hub as a whole. The picture below kind of explains my thoughts based off the custom spacers from Motorsport-Tech where the hubcentric "inside" bore would be 54.1mm (Stock miata) and the wheel centric bore on the outside would be 67.1mm for the 6ul. Any one else have some insight on this subject?
We manufacture the best Wheel Spacers money can buy | Motorsport Technology
I don't particularly like the "adapter" type spacers since you would effectively double the number of possible failure points, but I guess for the size I need on the rear it may be my only option if I can't get studs long enough. I had originally planned on having custom spacers made that were hubcentric and wheel centric, not just generic slabs of metal.
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On a second thought, I think you guys may be right on going with adapter style spacer. I poked around the Motorsport-Tech site some more and they will cost the same as the regular spacer and they can also be made hub and wheelcentric. I guess disregard my questions about longer studs....
Wheel Adapters, Wheel Spacers, Hub Centric Rings | Motorsport Technology
Wheel Adapters, Wheel Spacers, Hub Centric Rings | Motorsport Technology
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On a second thought, I think you guys may be right on going with adapter style spacer. I poked around the Motorsport-Tech site some more and they will cost the same as the regular spacer and they can also be made hub and wheelcentric. I guess disregard my questions about longer studs....
Wheel Adapters, Wheel Spacers, Hub Centric Rings | Motorsport Technology
Wheel Adapters, Wheel Spacers, Hub Centric Rings | Motorsport Technology
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On a second thought, I think you guys may be right on going with adapter style spacer. I poked around the Motorsport-Tech site some more and they will cost the same as the regular spacer and they can also be made hub and wheelcentric. I guess disregard my questions about longer studs....
Wheel Adapters, Wheel Spacers, Hub Centric Rings | Motorsport Technology
Wheel Adapters, Wheel Spacers, Hub Centric Rings | Motorsport Technology
Front: Adapter Style spacer 19mm 54.1mm Hub 67.1mm Wheel
Rear: Adapter Style spacer 30mm 54.1mm Hub 67.1mm Wheel
If anyone else has to order spacers and uses these guys, make sure to call...they'll give you better pricing on the phone.
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30mm - 2.80 #'s (15.5 with the 6ul....not bad considering the 16x9.5 spinwerkes were going to be 16.5#'s)
19mm - 2.05 #'s (14.75 with the 6ul)
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t33438-13/
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Bringing this back to life... on the topic of spacers, I'm a douch when it comes to this... I've got some second hand fiberglass flares seen here (type 1 Autokonexion??) both on the front and rear.
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What appx size spacers will I need F&R? The biggest rims I'll have are the 9" 6ULs with the 225 NT01s. I can take a guess - 20mm? - but I'm wrong most of the time. All I've found so far are pics to go by...
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What appx size spacers will I need F&R? The biggest rims I'll have are the 9" 6ULs with the 225 NT01s. I can take a guess - 20mm? - but I'm wrong most of the time. All I've found so far are pics to go by...
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Bringing this back to life... on the topic of spacers, I'm a douch when it comes to this... I've got some second hand fiberglass flares seen here (type 1 Autokonexion??) both on the front and rear.
[IMG][/IMG]
What appx size spacers will I need F&R? The biggest rims I'll have are the 9" 6ULs with the 225 NT01s. I can take a guess - 20mm? - but I'm wrong most of the time. All I've found so far are pics to go by...
[IMG][/IMG]
What appx size spacers will I need F&R? The biggest rims I'll have are the 9" 6ULs with the 225 NT01s. I can take a guess - 20mm? - but I'm wrong most of the time. All I've found so far are pics to go by...
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The 6Uls will be my primary, but I've also got a set ot K1 Kosie and some Drags... bot 15x7 with a +38 offset. I removed as much fender material I could and still have fender support... so basically 1" from the dashed outer edge of the flare... then hammered the crap out of the inner liner up... shoot, a pic is a million words...
[IMG][/IMG]
When I get the 6Uls I'll try to take measurements.... since the flares don't go all the way to the base, they don't have to stick out to the upper flare lip... but what's best for track is what I'm after.
[IMG][/IMG]
When I get the 6Uls I'll try to take measurements.... since the flares don't go all the way to the base, they don't have to stick out to the upper flare lip... but what's best for track is what I'm after.
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The 6Uls will be my primary, but I've also got a set ot K1 Kosie and some Drags... bot 15x7 with a +38 offset. I removed as much fender material I could and still have fender support... so basically 1" from the dashed outer edge of the flare... then hammered the crap out of the inner liner up... shoot, a pic is a million words...
[IMG][/IMG]
When I get the 6Uls I'll try to take measurements.... since the flares don't go all the way to the base, they don't have to stick out to the upper flare lip... but what's best for track is what I'm after.
[IMG][/IMG]
When I get the 6Uls I'll try to take measurements.... since the flares don't go all the way to the base, they don't have to stick out to the upper flare lip... but what's best for track is what I'm after.
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