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x808drifter 06-07-2011 03:17 PM

WTF Did I do to my brakes??? (Solved)
 
Changed out my leaky MC for a new one.
Now the pedal goes to the floor before they grab. Not spongy just excessive travel.
Bench bled MC, and bled brakes. Also ended up blowing out braided line. (Front Driver) Before calling it a day.

Adjust the pushrod?

hustler 06-07-2011 04:13 PM

Does it drop if you leave the car parked?

x808drifter 06-07-2011 04:19 PM

No.

MartinezA92 06-07-2011 04:24 PM

Did you bench bleed it? I know tons of people who had issues with that because they didn't bench bleed it.

x808drifter 06-07-2011 04:28 PM

1st post. Yes I did.
I assume not bench bleeding it would put a shit ton of air in the system.
I always bench bleed new MC's.

hustler 06-07-2011 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 735508)
No.

Check your wheel bearings. If the pedal engages normally before you drive it, something is changing when you drive, and it's probably a bad wheel bearing. I finally, after chasing this problem for 18-months, swapped all 4-bearings with AMSoil grease and have never looked back.

x808drifter 06-07-2011 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 735514)
Check your wheel bearings. If the pedal engages normally before you drive it, something is changing when you drive, and it's probably a bad wheel bearing. I finally, after chasing this problem for 18-months, swapped all 4-bearings with AMSoil grease and have never looked back.

Oh, I think I miss understood. Thought you ment does it drop by itself If I leave it overnight.

Brakes were like that before I took the car out to see how hard they were grabbing.

Laur3ns 06-07-2011 04:38 PM

Replaced with same MC model/type/year?
Did you touch (your) pushrod?

x808drifter 06-07-2011 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 735521)
Replaced with same MC model/type/year?
Did you touch (your) pushrod?

1. Yes.

2. No

ATM I'm just waiting for the new brake lines to come in. Just want some ideas before I get under the car again.

hustler 06-07-2011 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 735515)
Oh, I think I miss understood. Thought you ment does it drop by itself If I leave it overnight.

Brakes were like that before I took the car out to see how hard they were grabbing.

If you don't drive the car, leave it parked, and it never rolls, how does the pedal feel?

x808drifter 06-07-2011 04:51 PM

Same.

hustler 06-07-2011 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 735526)
Same.

Adjust the rod.

x808drifter 06-07-2011 04:58 PM

How do you adjust the rod?
Under dash or inside booster?


Edit: NVM I downloaded the service manual form the sticky.
Will update after I change the lines, bleed the system, and adjust the rod.

hustler 06-07-2011 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 735530)
How do you adjust the rod?
Under dash or inside booster?


Edit: NVM I downloaded the service manual form the sticky.
Will update after I change the lines, bleed the system, and adjust the rod.

Do yourself a favor and reverse bleed and or tap the calipers, MC, and lines with a deadblow. You'll be surprised to see how much air comes out.

x808drifter 06-09-2011 02:08 PM

Update: The entire system AFAIK has lost all fluid.
How should I got about bleeding the entire system?
I have bench bled the MC on the car.
No access to a power bleeder.

Also just to confirm bleed cylinder order, DR/PR/PF/DF? (D=Driver P=Passenger)

Savington 06-09-2011 02:14 PM

Order of the fronts doesn't matter, they are on separate lines. You need to do the LR/DR corner before the RR/PR corner, though.

I don't know how I survived without a pressure bleeder for so long. You should really consider buying one.

x808drifter 06-09-2011 03:02 PM

That's next on my list of maintenance items.

scottyd 06-09-2011 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 736118)
Order of the fronts doesn't matter, they are on separate lines. You need to do the LR/DR corner before the RR/PR corner, though.

I don't know how I survived without a pressure bleeder for so long. You should really consider buying one.

My legs thank you for buying one.

x808drifter 06-09-2011 10:10 PM

Everything is fine now.

Pushrod did not need adjustment.
Probably the failing line that caused the problem.

Still think the pads are some sort of track pad, as they don't have any bite cold.

hustler 06-09-2011 10:35 PM

Broken Motive brand bleeder, converted to reverse bleed = the easiest dry-line brake bleeding I've done, and you don't have to bleed the master. I haven't bled my brakes since November and I've done 6 track days on them, lol. I do conventional pedal pumping when I already have a good bleed.


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