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Old 07-29-2014, 11:49 PM   #1
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Default 15x8 6UL gen 4 released

Now accepting pre-paid orders for the late October 2014 15x8 6UL shipment. Visit the website to place order, see or get a shipping quote.

Low pressure cast, T6 heat treated, flow formed monoblock construction
+36 offset
11.4 lbs
4x100
67.1mm center bore
550kg max load rated
Cap included, color same as wheel

Silver with machined lip





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Cool videos showing the flow forming proccess. These videos are not from our factory but the idea is the same.



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maybe I'm missing something, but didn't you specifically say that the next 6UL will be forged?
I can find that post if need be. I think it was in the discussion about china wheels.
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maybe I'm missing something, but didn't you specifically say that the next 6UL will be forged?
I can find that post if need be. I think it was in the discussion about china wheels.
Nope. You are not going to see a full die forged 15" wheel for less than $300 each anytime soon. Our wheels are flow formed.

Most of the industry has adopted BBS "flow formed" nomenclature for this process. Also known as:

spun forged
rotary forged
flow formed

Technically, rotary forging is a bit different than flow forming as the blank and drawing process are done more or less at the same time.
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I think I misunderstood your previous post. My mistake.

https://www.miataturbo.net/wheels-ti...2/#post1118437

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Gen 4 6UL's wil have rotary forged rims and probably cost less than gen 3's, be significantly lighter and have a load rating 10% over industry standard. We'll call that standard spec949. Catchy? We are hoping to have 15x8's and 9's towards the end of this year. Far too early to take orders, estimate ship dates or provide any specific technical details. Yes, it will look the same save for a few detail difference from the diet the wheel is being put on.

On one hand, I'm flattered that an entire cottage industry has popped up around the unique fitments I pioneered 6 years ago. OTOH, it sucks that I have to battle for market share with other companies using my innovations. What's cool now is that rotary forging has become so affordable that I can add that neat tech and not need to raise the price on the wheel.

Many more sizes on the horizon. Not one of which I will announce before we have tooling ready and certification complete. Learned my lesson after having every single fitment I have done copied by at least two other wheel companies, some before I even got mine into production. doh

The only weapon I have to combat this relentless copying of unprotectable information is to continue to innovate faster than it can be copied. So that's what I'll do.
I guess "rotary forged" is not the forged I was thinking of.

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Very nice, I love the charcoal color. Will stay tuned for 15x10 release.
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I think I misunderstood your previous post. My mistake.

I guess "rotary forged" is not the forged I was thinking of.
It's easy to be confused by that. It's why we decided to stick with "flow formed" to describe the process and stop mentioning "forged" anything. I don't want to be lumped in with the likes of the Konig cast copy of a die forged RAYS Volk CE28N that has "FORGED" and "RAVS" stamped on it.
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Props for that.
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You should get some stickers made that says (rotary) FORGED and 'LIOS, put them on the 15x8s, and sell them for $100 more a wheel.
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Emilio,

Do you have any full wheel pictures of the other colours, particularly tungsten and bronze please?

I will be ordering though your UK distributor, MOT motorsport, but I am finding it hard to visualise the wheels in the other colours. The bronze looks gloss in the picture in your first post, rather than the matte finish in the previous generation.

Thank you,

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Emilio,

Do you have any full wheel pictures of the other colours, particularly tungsten and bronze please?

I will be ordering though your UK distributor, MOT motorsport, but I am finding it hard to visualise the wheels in the other colours. The bronze looks gloss in the picture in your first post, rather than the matte finish in the previous generation.

Thank you,

Martin.
Nope. When we do, we will publish them. Until then, you will need to use your imagination.
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Nope. When we do, we will publish them. Until then, you will need to use your imagination.
You need yourself some keyshot.

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It's easy to be confused by that. It's why we decided to stick with "flow formed" to describe the process and stop mentioning "forged" anything. I don't want to be lumped in with the likes of the Konig cast copy of a die forged RAYS Volk CE28N that has "FORGED" and "RAVS" stamped on it.
One of my friends just got a Miata. He was so thrilled that it had super expensive forged Ray's Engineering wheels on it.

They were "forged" alright. RAVS ENGINEERING.
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you will need to use your imagination.


I imagine the tungstens are going to look great and be a really popular choice, but my imagination isn't as good as I'd like so I still went with the bronze/gold like I'd been originally planning. There's nothing classier than gold wheels on a red car. I'll probably have to change them out when I repaint it white and pink like a barbie car but that's a problem for future me.
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Now accepting pre-paid orders for the late October 2014 15x8 6UL shipment. Visit the website to place order ...
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I'm regretting going for the bronze now
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I'll just leave this right here

Well, that finish looks ******* AWESOME. I'm glad I went tungsten after much internal debate.

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I'm regretting going for the bronze now
If you want the Tungsten... I'll take the bronze off your hands.

Lemme know?
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I went with charcoal,this runs bronze looked a bit too gold for me. However tungsten came out looking great. Can't wait to get these bad boys,running around on stock wheels is getting old.
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