275/35/15 TW200?
 

It occurred to me that with the advent of our affordable and readily available 15x11, there might be sufficient demand for a 275/35/15 in something like a VR-1. Both for the stancekids and high hp NA/NB builds. The 245's are awesome but 275's go to 11.
I reached out to my contacts at Maxxis to see if a small production run would be possible. The original 275/35/15 Hoosier was simply a 225/45/15 with 2 inch plug in the center. Could we take the 245/40 and put a 30mm plug in the center. Dunno? Might be worth doing.

Thoughts?

P.S. Insta neg cat for asking if they fit unmodified fenders

Thoughts? I love you.

Yes please.

You are going to make me hack up my low mileage MSM I've been trying to not tear up.

Do they fit under modified fenders? :fawk:
I'd say the RC1 would be more of a candidate, wouldn't it? If you're going that extreme width, you're probably not looking for rain performance.

Dammit. I just got my car painted. I'm not touching the fenders for a while.

I would buy them, provided the price is reasonable. I love my 245 VR-1's already and struggle in the warm to break them free on pump gas (e85 however...) so another 30mm would be awesome.

Now I have to consider going from 15x9 to 15x11... :party:

Unequivocally yes, to both
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Unless you live somewhere tropical and you don't stop for rain.

A 200TW tire would be great for some of the higher hp guys. I'd take a set or 3

This is about a street street legal tire that isn't useless in the rain. Not an HPDE/autocross focused product although they could obviously be used for that.

Anybody that needs more grip than a 275/35/15 VR-1 will generate on track will opt for Hoosiers, Toyo RR, FA fronts or something similarly suitable.
IOW, a 275/35 VR-1 overlaps with smaller Hoosiers in terms of $/speed. It's not practical however, to run a full slick on the street as a daily for most drivers. Thus the need for the biggest damn street tire evar.

I would definitely be interested. It's always seemed like a bit of a chicken/egg situation for wide 15" wheels and tires, the interest was there but there were no solutions. I would be interested to hear how sales of the 245s have been as far as Maxxis is concerned. Seems like that would be the key to this, if those have beaten expectations I would think they would be much more receptive.

Favorable:)
That is about all I can share.

But yes, until there is recorded sales history for a given size, the industry is reluctant to open new molds for niche sizes. This particularly so for less profitable per unit weight 15's than higher margin 17+ diameters.
Took about 3 years to make 225/45/15 Hankook Z212's happen. Took about 7 years for affordable 245/40/15's to happen. We start making noise now, we might have our 275's in 18-24 months. Worth a try.

Can you imagine an LSx swapped Exocet with 15x11's and 275's?

The answer is indeed yes.

but the real question is: will these herrafrush me out to be the illest, most diseased, freshlaced stancenation flat brimmed brobrotron in all hardparking lots in the universe?

auto negkat for "tuck"
auto pozkat for "poke"

choose wisely

I mean is this really a question that needs to be asked?

When asked if you want moar tire, the answer is always YES.

it's almost as absurd as asking "moar boost?" amirite?

OGK with no windshield frame, wide body, QBE60G and K20 rolling on 15x11 275's. Street registered.
Yes, I believe the answer is yes.

ftfy

Would love to see it, but realistically I'm not a buyer for that size.

:drama:

I bought 2 sets of the 245s this year, love them. I'd definitely be on board for some 275s!

I would be interested. Especially is some of these "drag week" style Autocross events continue to grow.

FWIW I am making progress with Hoosier on building a 23" tall A7 wider than 275mm.

I will post more details when I have more information.

.. tosses status quo into the rubbish bin

100% would buy some, and so would many customers.

Many classes require street tires, and the Miata always gets the short end of the stick with tire selection because of it. A 275 would be a game-changer. We are currently building an enduro Miata to run in World Racing League for 2017 (K24 powered of course), but we're restricted to street tires. A 275 would be a fantastic option.

Additionally, this tire size would be huge for Honda guys. Up until the 245 VR1, everyone was stuck going up to 17s just to get a 255 street tire on the car. A 275 would be pretty popular in the Honda community. And not the JDM stance yo Honda community - those guys mainly are looking for 175s.

I figured the honda guys would love these as well. I'm sure the v8 guys would all jump on these as well, that way they could stop trying to convert to five lugs and use ugly ass wheels. While I absolutely love the current 245s, I think the 275s really would be a game changer and I'd be ecstatic to buy a set.

Thank you!!!

can i get a hell yea? yes you can hell yea, put me down for some rc-1 in 275's please.

So where do I order these new Emilio Tires? I already have the Emilio Wheels.

lmao Emilio wheels. These are about the only thing that would make me want to put flares on my car, but I would definitely do so. Even more motivation for +275... Is the plug material to increase width typically the same compound as the rest of the tire?

Hmmmm, so that means people will be unloading their 15x10's in order to use the 275's...that means I can (finally) put my 245's onto 10" wheels and WIN!!

Are you swapping the drivetrain from Deviate into OGK? Weren't you trying to sell deviate?

Undecided. Make Offer.

I wish, I'm saving for the BGK and even that's been challenging!

Ha, you too? Nathan and I are building a 1.8 car for WRL right now.

10/10 will buy/need a set of these.

Question, you mention them being ideal for a 15x11, however what is the minimum width they would be acceptable on? I thoroughly enjoy the "meaty" look, and was already considering the 245s on a 15x8 RPF1. 15x10 with 275s would be <3 <3 <3

I suspect they would work on 15x9's just as Hoosiers do. Better on a 15x10, best on a 15x11.
If a VR-1 in this size comes into existence, it won't be as wide as a Hoosier (no tire is).

I love the meaty look myself, but man 245 on an 8 sounds a bit sketchy. Even I wouldn't recommend, let alone people that drive fast in corners.

Yeah, 8" = 205

245 on an 8" is pretty normal, and totally safe. Like Emilio said about the 275. Fine on a 9", better on a 10", best on an 11".

Same with a 245. Fine on a 8, better on a 9 best on a 10

Back a few years ago, people were shoe-horning 275-35-15 Hoosiers on 6" rims for the front of Integra Type R's at Nationals for D Stock. I ran 225-45-15 Hoosiers on 6" Miata rims for years in C Stock. 245 is fine on a 8" wide rim.

I'd be in for a set.

Yeah. The stock NB size is 195 on a 15x6, which is a larger percentage difference in tire vs rim than 245 on a 15x8. There's no question a wider wheel is better, but if 8s are what you have, then it's perfectly safe and it's faster than putting 225s or 205s on it.

--Ian

This would push me over the edge on a set of 11's. Especially if the new compound on the new Maxxis was as good as the Rival S of today.

Yeah, they did that because of classing rules, not because it was the optimal wheel width for the tire.

Go sit in the corner.

Did you even read the question...
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Of course they did. Don't be an ass. He was simply making the point that worse fitments have been mounted for various reasons.

sub'd...i'll take a set if/when

GP1 car I would assume? John Wags is on our team and we were throwing that idea around a while back. It would require a fuel cell to be competitive based on consumption, but really it was not having the tire available to make it a feasible build. If this 275 was available, that would solve that problem. A fuel cell is just an added expense, but doable. We may revisit doing that build ourselves if these become available in a 275 and the new roller bearing hubs work out.

I'm just going to say yes please again.. i really want this to happen.

From my corner... They did it because the class limited them to a 6" rim and the 275 was FASTER than the 225 on the same rim. If it was not faster, people would not have done it.

Now, would I buy a set of 275/35/15 Street tires, like the Maxis, yes... yes, I would.

Remember kids, narrow tires preserve drivetrains!

I'd consider a set of 275's.

But I want to be able to provide my wife with a reason why I "need" to buy a T5 transmission to swap to... Breaking the 6spd would be a pretty good reason I think.

And yes, I would definitely buy a set of 275 200tw tires!

Would this fit under unmodified fenders? Jk.

In for a set, now I have an excuse to get flares.

Narrow tires also preserve laps - makes them last forever...

I'd buy a set, destroy them in a summer, and buy more the next year. I already have a set of 15x11's on standby in the garage that I'd eagerly put some wide street tires on.

If you've not already done so, consider cross posting this on miata.net in the engine swap section.

Just received confirmation today. The new, wider 23" tall A7 will be here May 1st

Do I need to plan for 15x12 6UL's or are these some other diameter?

p.s. This is worthy of a new thread.

Haaa. I think 15x12's would only work in the rear. I really think this is going to be a much more limited market than the 275. My plan is to get some new barrels for my wheels and go 15x12 in the rear and stay 15x11 up front

This might be some of the best news I have heard all winter!

With the bogarts, could you just change the outter barrel to add width and keep inner clearance the same as they'd be with 11's?

Wrong thread.

https://www.miataturbo.net/wheels-ti...5-15-a7-92178/

I am dredging up this old thread to ask if any progress was made with the supplier. By now, they surely have some statistical data with which to weigh this proposal against the market reception of the 245/40/15 size.

Nothing to report just yet