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Old 01-25-2010, 01:48 AM   #141
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Well I've spent the past 2 hours working on this rim fitment deal and here is the scoop. On the rear, you can fit as much meat as you want....literally. A 16x10 with 245/45's would fit no problem. **** you could probably fit a damn 16x12 if you wanted to. Now all the issue come with the front which is where I spent most of my time trying to figure out the offset that would interfere with turning the least (3 & 9 oclock positions). This said, my original plans of a 16x9.5 0et with a 245/45 are DEFINITLY out. After hacking up some coat hangers to mimic the tire diameter and width/offset I found that on the 16x9.5 I'd need to run a 245/35/R16 and have an offset of +32mm which would put the outside lip of the rim 3.5" out off the mounting surface of the rotor. Even with this, there would be some trimming I'd need to do to the flares in the 7-8 and 4-5 oclock positions to make room, but its doable. Believe it or not, even with the positive offset, the wheel would still be almost flush with the outermost edge of the flares.....front and rear (checked the rear since I don't want to run a staggard setup)......now did anything I mention jump out to anyone....probably not, but the +32mm offset is pretty darn close to another popular wheel. Thats right the 6UL has a +36. Granted the 15x9 would be .5" narrower than the spinwerkes and would add another 4mm of offset, but by my calculations would put the outside edge of the rim 3.08" out off the mounting surface of the rotor.......so the moral of the story is that 15x9 6UL's with a .5" spacer will be close to flush with the Tuckin99's and the 245/40/R15 or 225/45/R15 have basically the same rolling diameter as the 245/35/R16 so the interference will be basically the same as I noted above.

Sorry about the long winded reponse, I just wanted to put my findings out there for others. In my eyes, I'm thinking I may go with the 6UL's now just for the mere fact that they are 3lbs lighter than the 16x9.5 spinwerks, look better, are probably stronger, and are $70 cheaper - each.....and all I'll have to do is run .5" spacer, if I'm worried about having the wheels fill out the flares more.

O yea, if anyone is curious the hub diameter is 54.1mm....I verified it while I was doing all this
Your measuring is way off...something is up if the 6UL only needs a .5 spacer to be flush. Those pictures you got from spoolin were the flares on my beater with a rolled and mild pulled rear and it had 2-3 inch's of extra space...fyi
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Old 01-25-2010, 03:17 AM   #142
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Lol....now I understand what all this blabbering was about spent my whole day pondering about the best setup to go with and I still dont know what to do because of this.
yeah it was a bunch of blabbering! my bad!

all you need to do to have more room for turning is move the support bar the keeps the sides of the bumper out forward about an 1" 1/2 and cut more!

with flares!

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flares taken off the front! you can see exactly how much was cut out!



just decided to throw this one in there too! "his engine bay"




ill go take some pics and play with them a lil to show what im talking bout
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Your measuring is way off...something is up if the 6UL only needs a .5 spacer to be flush. Those pictures you got from spoolin were the flares on my beater with a rolled and mild pulled rear and it had 2-3 inch's of extra space...fyi
Off a little yes, but not all that much. Right now I have some kosei K1's 15x7 +38 on the car and from the tire to the edge of the flare both front and rear is 2.5". Now since the offsets between the kosei's and the 6uls are basically the same, the 15x9 6ul would add 1" leaving 1.5" to the edge of the flare. With the .5" spacer you'd be down to 1" from the edge of the flare to the edge of the tire and that is only at the 12 oclock position. Since the flare tapers down significantly on either side, the tire would actually be beyond the flare towards the 7 & 4 oclock positions. You can see what I mean in this picture pretty well. On another note though, I dont know how this guy got his wheel gap down so tight. His car must be really slammed because my car is low and with a 23" tire diameter I'll still be able to stick 2-3 fingers between the top of the tire and the flare.

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flares taken off the front! you can see exactly how much was cut out!




ill go take some pics and play with them a lil to show what im talking bout
Yea, looks like I'm going to do more surgery....might even have to trim the flares a little too (2nd pic).

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Did some experimenting tonight with my Kosei K1's (15x7 +38et 205/50/R15) to see what different 6UL setups would look like. Obviously if I had the right rim there would be 2 more inches of rubber, but at least I was able to see where the outside of the wheel would be...The 2x4 is basically the same height as the tire (23", same diameter as a 205/50/R15 and 225/45/R15)and is pushed up against the tire to make it easier to see where the tire is.

15x9 +36et 6UL as is, no spacer
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im a dummy when it comes to spacing and offset and all that crap! but it looks like you got this **** figured out Cspence!

what size spacer would i need for 16x8 0 offset, to get it to be flush with the flares or damn near flush?
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im a dummy when it comes to spacing and offset and all that crap! but it looks like you got this **** figured out Cspence!

what size spacer would i need for 16x8 0 offset, to get it to be flush with the flares or damn near flush?
From my calculations the 16x8 0et would be basically the same as the 15x9 +36 6UL with the 25mm spacer which I think looks okay....if you wanted to fill them out more you could run like 1/2" spacer or so...
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sweet thanks!

now i just need to locate some good quality spacers!
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If I end up going the 6UL with spacer route these are the spacers I'm going to order. Cheaper than a lot I've seen and appear to be top notch!

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Just came across another nice picture of the spinwerkes....This is a 15x10 if your curious





decisions decisions....................




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Painted black....



15x10 275/35/R15...



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thats a tough one! the 6UL is worthy! the spinwerks would be even better if they wernt so shiny!


event though the kodiaks are on the pricey side im still stuck on them! but for now my wheels i have now will suffice for long enough with spacers when i get the flares, till i can afford them!
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thats a tough one! the 6UL is worthy! the spinwerks would be even better if they wernt so shiny!


event though the kodiaks are on the pricey side im still stuck on them! but for now my wheels i have now will suffice for long enough with spacers when i get the flares, till i can afford them!
**** though, for the price of 1 set of kodiaks you could have 6UL's and Spinwerkes....If I go with spinwerks I'll be doing something about the finish...I wish I could just figure out which wheel I want to go with. Still open to other suggestions
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are you gonna be running 16x8's so you can keep your tire options open?

with the modifications that follows with these flares, im thinking go big or go home for me, i dont know how stupid this will be or how streetable 9's or 10's will be (tire options are kinda limited as well) i may go the spinwerks route and go for a simi-gloss black finish!
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Wow,never knew of that place,Looks to have good prices for being 6061 billet adapters.
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are you gonna be running 16x8's so you can keep your tire options open?

with the modifications that follows with these flares, im thinking go big or go home for me, i dont know how stupid this will be or how streetable 9's or 10's will be (tire options are kinda limited as well) i may go the spinwerks route and go for a simi-gloss black finish!
If I go with spinwerkes, definitly 16x9 or 16x9.5. The 245/35 will fit on those nicely.

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Wow,never knew of that place,Looks to have good prices for being 6061 billet adapters.
I didn't know about them either until the other day. They look like a quality piece especially being hubcentric and wheelcentric. Its a spacer and a centering ring at the same time. This is why I'm really contimplating getting 6ULS.....I had previously thought that I would only be able to get crappy spacers, but since I can get nice ones that only weigh about 1# each the 6ULs are an still an option...

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Say wuh?
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Say wuh?
I posted up a wheel... realized a mistake and couldn't just delete

I'll be curious to see your end wheel treatment... as I'll be installing the same flares soonish.
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I posted up a wheel... realized a mistake and couldn't just delete

I'll be curious to see your end wheel treatment... as I'll be installing the same flares soonish.
Thats what I figured, just curious. What wheel you thinking of going with? Any other options you thinking about? I really need to make a decision by march / April



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What wheels are these??
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Those look like the Team Dynamics Pro Race II.

Nothing even close to the width you're looking for in 15" or 16".
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I was going to say the 15x10 Diamond Pro series came in at 17lbs... but then I realized I had quoted the weight of the Wide5 format.

I've seen people make wide5 to 4x100 adapters... but nothing I'd trust for real on track use... so I retracted it on the misquote and then the really not wise to use adapter reason also.
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