Notices
Wheels and Tires All things related to Miata Wheels and Tires.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 949 Racing

What wheels to go with Tuckin99 N2 Flares??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 10:50 PM
  #161  
Cspence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,065
Total Cats: 1
From: Meriden, CT
Default

And with this picture, I believe my decision has been made.....love em. Yes they can fit without flares, yes there are better wheels out there for the tuckin99 flares, and yes spacers are probably not the best solution.....but for how these things look, what they weigh, and how much they cost you simply cannot beat it. Now if my budget was doubled it'd be a much different story. Figures the 15x9 nickels are out of stock till March

Old Jan 29, 2010 | 04:38 PM
  #162  
Cspence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,065
Total Cats: 1
From: Meriden, CT
Default

Being the loser I am, I was curious what the weight of the spacers from Motorsport-Tech will be. After some calculations, this is what you can *roughly*(+ or - .1#'s) expect them to tip the scales at:

http://www.motorsport-tech.com/wheel_spacers.html

30mm: 1.81 lbs
25mm: 1.52 lbs
20mm: 1.22 lbs
15mm: 0.93 lbs
10mm: 0.64 lbs

SpacerWeightpicture.jpg?t=1264800763

So, worst case senario, the 30mm spacers with the 15x9 6UL's will tip the scales at 14.5 lbs (12.7 for the 6UL) and it will increase the track by 2.375". At 14.5 #'s, its still slightly lighter than the spinwerkes 15" wheel and about 1.5#'s lighter than the 16x9's. In the front I'll most likely never be able to swing the 30mm spacer (I'm going to see what I can do) so I am thinking I might run a 15-20mm spacer up front in attempt to keep the track as close to the rear as I can.
Old Jan 29, 2010 | 04:44 PM
  #163  
nickt93's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 663
Total Cats: 36
From: Atlanta
Default

Do spacers that thick alter the suspension geometry of the Miata and hurt handling? I've heard differing opinions on that topic. At one point I had planned to do 15x9 6ULs with the 25mm H&R spacers and flares, but for a number of reasons decided against it. Also, is there any reason to think those spacers won't hold up for heavy track duty?
Old Jan 29, 2010 | 04:59 PM
  #164  
Cspence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,065
Total Cats: 1
From: Meriden, CT
Default

Originally Posted by nickt93
Do spacers that thick alter the suspension geometry of the Miata and hurt handling?
Any wheel and suspension other than stock probably changes Mazda's original suspension geometry....for better or worse is debatable. In my eyes, my only other option was to run a low offset wheel which is basically the same thing, so I can't see the spacers being an issue, especially since this combo will be lighter than my alternative low et wheel (ie. not Bogarts or Kodiaks).

Originally Posted by nickt93
Also, is there any reason to think those spacers won't hold up for heavy track duty?
From the limited searching I've done on this topic, if you put in the proper length studs where you can get about 9 full turns on the lug nut, there should be no issues. If you were running adapters or something, then I'd say it'd be a problem. For me there is no issues since my car is mostly for the street. I may start tracking it here and there in a year or so but I wouldn't be worried about it. If I was a die hard track junkie like Sav, I'd be saving up to get some real wheels at $500 a clip
Old Jan 31, 2010 | 11:27 PM
  #165  
sbrian2's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 595
Total Cats: 3
From: Murfreesboro, TN
Default

Here are some Kodiaks for sale that would need 2 outer shells for a complete set that would work great for those wanting to flare.

SCCAForums.com - FS: 15x10.5, 15x8.5 Kodiak wheels 4x100
Old Jan 31, 2010 | 11:42 PM
  #166  
triple88a's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 10,522
Total Cats: 1,830
From: Chicago, IL
Default

Sbrian2 i love how it says these wheels would fit Honda Civic's (92+) or Miata's fairly easily. How you fit a 225 in the front and a 275 wheel on the back of a miata fairly easily is beyond me


that style is the worst spacers available for sale currently. They put about an inch of leverage on the studs. That leverage can be prevented with the spacers that have their own set of studs.

Originally Posted by Cspence

Old Feb 1, 2010 | 12:21 PM
  #167  
Cspence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,065
Total Cats: 1
From: Meriden, CT
Default

Originally Posted by triple88a
that style is the worst spacers available for sale currently. They put about an inch of leverage on the studs. That leverage can be prevented with the spacers that have their own set of studs.
Any data to back this statement up? Having a spacer with its own studs would be just like an adapter, which I've always heard to be a no-no. If you have any articles or sites debating this topic I'd love to give them a read....
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 12:40 PM
  #168  
sbrian2's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 595
Total Cats: 3
From: Murfreesboro, TN
Default

Originally Posted by triple88a
Sbrian2 i love how it says these wheels would fit Honda Civic's (92+) or Miata's fairly easily. How you fit a 225 in the front and a 275 wheel on the back of a miata fairly easily is beyond me
Everything is easy with a sawzall. 275's on a miata is very common on competitive autocross cars.
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 04:20 PM
  #169  
triple88a's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 10,522
Total Cats: 1,830
From: Chicago, IL
Default

Originally Posted by Cspence
Any data to back this statement up? Having a spacer with its own studs would be just like an adapter, which I've always heard to be a no-no. If you have any articles or sites debating this topic I'd love to give them a read....
I'll do the math later to back it up as i got class now however this is a very common problem on trucks since they run heavier tires however on a miata thats running slicks, the forces are much greater.
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:44 PM
  #170  
modernbeat's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 220
Total Cats: 1
From: Dallas, TX
Default

The antithis to this topic, but I'm trying to squeeze a 275 Hoosier under the fender and keep the car as narrow as possible - for autocross.

I bought a set of Weld Magnum import drag wheels in 15x10 with 6 inch backspacing. The wheels by themselves stick out past the peak of the fender about 1/2 inch. With tires that should be about 1 inch. I'm going to try to pull the fender enough to cover the tire.

FWIW, they clear 1.6 brakes, but I don't think they will clear 1.8 brakes. Weld sells these in a number of other backspacings that would give you more dish and fill out a flare.

And the bare wheels only weigh 12.15 lbs, or 12 lbs 3 oz.

On the car.
Name:  SNC10998-1.jpg
Views: 678
Size:  106.3 KB

This is not in line with the fender, but out a ways so you can see the width.
Name:  SNC10997.jpg
Views: 615
Size:  92.5 KB

Flyweight.
Name:  SNC10637.jpg
Views: 642
Size:  91.9 KB
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:50 PM
  #171  
Cspence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,065
Total Cats: 1
From: Meriden, CT
Default

Whats the price on the Welds though?
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 06:52 PM
  #172  
WonTon's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,799
Total Cats: 1
From: Atlanta, GA
Default

yeah! in for price!

those wheels dont look half bad either!
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 06:59 PM
  #173  
modernbeat's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 220
Total Cats: 1
From: Dallas, TX
Default

It was around $1425 for four wheels shipped from Summit. They were special order and it took around six weeks.

They checked four times to make sure that I really wanted them.
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:02 PM
  #174  
WonTon's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,799
Total Cats: 1
From: Atlanta, GA
Default

Originally Posted by modernbeat
It was around $1425 for four wheels shipped from Summit. They were special order and it took around six weeks.

They checked four times to make sure that I really wanted them.
damn! thats $356.25 a wheel!
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:24 PM
  #175  
Cspence's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,065
Total Cats: 1
From: Meriden, CT
Default

Too rich for my blood at the moment. I'd rather get the 6UL's / spacers and start saving for more "go-fast" bits...
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:32 PM
  #176  
WonTon's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,799
Total Cats: 1
From: Atlanta, GA
Default

/\/\/\/\ tru dat!
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:47 PM
  #177  
slutz4's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 566
Total Cats: 2
Default

theres no denying your a baller with those welds.
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:49 PM
  #178  
Splitime's Avatar
Miotta FTW!
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,290
Total Cats: 31
From: Chicagoland, IL
Default

Originally Posted by Cspence
Too rich for my blood at the moment. I'd rather get the 6UL's / spacers and start saving for more "go-fast" bits...
Thats my exact motivation when I head in the direction of diamond style wheels. I'm willing to give up that couple pounds though to skip buying spacers.
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 09:23 PM
  #179  
modernbeat's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 220
Total Cats: 1
From: Dallas, TX
Default

Originally Posted by slutz4
theres no denying your a baller with those welds.
Not quite. They're the cheapest lightweight 15x10 available. Hardly baller status.
Old Feb 1, 2010 | 09:54 PM
  #180  
slutz4's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 566
Total Cats: 2
Default

Originally Posted by modernbeat
Not quite. They're the cheapest lightweight 15x10 available. Hardly baller status.
ya, I guess ur right. There still nice wheels though.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:53 AM.