H3AVY to H3AVYER to...H3AV1EST P1G
10-29-2014, 04:39 PM
#1402
Ayiyiyi the school system has failed.
Graphs are your friend. The slope is .5
Rise/Run = Slope
1 / .5 = .5
What Brain posted is correct, although I'm not quite sure why he is using 4.25v = 18.5 AFR... As I am pretty sure the gauge only reads from 10-18 AFR.
So I don't see why you wouldn't just use 0v = 10 AFR and 4v = 18 AFR
but it doesn't really matter as long as you have 2 data points with the same slope, it's all the same linear formula.
I'm not exactly sure how it calls for the inputs in TunerStudios, but as far as linear algebra goes, you could even put 0v = 10 AFR and .5v = 11 AFR and it's the exact same thing.
Graphs are your friend. The slope is .5
Rise/Run = Slope
1 / .5 = .5
What Brain posted is correct, although I'm not quite sure why he is using 4.25v = 18.5 AFR... As I am pretty sure the gauge only reads from 10-18 AFR.
So I don't see why you wouldn't just use 0v = 10 AFR and 4v = 18 AFR
but it doesn't really matter as long as you have 2 data points with the same slope, it's all the same linear formula.
I'm not exactly sure how it calls for the inputs in TunerStudios, but as far as linear algebra goes, you could even put 0v = 10 AFR and .5v = 11 AFR and it's the exact same thing.
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10-29-2014, 04:44 PM
#1403
Ayiyiyi the school system has failed.
Graphs are your friend. The slope is .5
Rise/Run = Slope
1 / .5 = .5
What Brain posted is correct, although I'm not quite sure why he is using 4.25v = 18.5 AFR... As I am pretty sure the gauge only reads from 10-18 AFR.
So I don't see why you wouldn't just use 0v = 10 AFR and 4v = 18 AFR
but it doesn't really matter as long as you have 2 data points with the same slope, it's all the same linear formula.
I'm not exactly sure how it calls for the inputs in TunerStudios, but as far as linear algebra goes, you could even put 0v = 10 AFR and .5v = 11 AFR and it's the exact same thing.
Graphs are your friend. The slope is .5
Rise/Run = Slope
1 / .5 = .5
What Brain posted is correct, although I'm not quite sure why he is using 4.25v = 18.5 AFR... As I am pretty sure the gauge only reads from 10-18 AFR.
So I don't see why you wouldn't just use 0v = 10 AFR and 4v = 18 AFR
but it doesn't really matter as long as you have 2 data points with the same slope, it's all the same linear formula.
I'm not exactly sure how it calls for the inputs in TunerStudios, but as far as linear algebra goes, you could even put 0v = 10 AFR and .5v = 11 AFR and it's the exact same thing.
Lol My lower shift boot is not currently installed and Ive been attempting to tune my car all day.... Needless to say I've been a bit loopy all afternoon. Come to think of it now I know where this splitting headache came from...
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10-30-2014, 09:30 AM
#1404
I'm really hoping to get a couple hours to start messing with the tune today. I'm also hoping those numbers work, haven't input them yet.
So anyways, I'm pretty set on "the plan" now:
-Sold the 2560, will be running the t25g. Currently rebuilding completely.
-Will run the stock injectors and stock clutch and pump gas for now
-Will "test the limit" of both the stock clutch and stock injectors. For science
T25 housings are getting sand blasted by a friend in the next few days. t25 rotating assembly getting balanced at G-Pop shop currently. Hoping to get it back next week. Right now my only hold up is Flyin Miata having their silicone lower rad hoses on back order, so I gotta wait for that. Then I'm gonna need to find a couple days to dedicate to start installing all the turbo parts
So anyways, I'm pretty set on "the plan" now:
-Sold the 2560, will be running the t25g. Currently rebuilding completely.
-Will run the stock injectors and stock clutch and pump gas for now
-Will "test the limit" of both the stock clutch and stock injectors. For science
T25 housings are getting sand blasted by a friend in the next few days. t25 rotating assembly getting balanced at G-Pop shop currently. Hoping to get it back next week. Right now my only hold up is Flyin Miata having their silicone lower rad hoses on back order, so I gotta wait for that. Then I'm gonna need to find a couple days to dedicate to start installing all the turbo parts
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10-30-2014, 10:09 AM
#1406
Thank you my friend, but I have ID725's sitting in a box. I appreciate the offer though
The point of stock cluch and injectors is mostly:
-have fun while testing the "true" limits and posting about it here
-finally fry the stock clutch so I don't feel bad about taking it out and throwing it away
-boost the car quickly instead of overthink and overbuild everything and never enjoy it
After this, my next goal will be to test the limits of this T25G. Then..who knows
The point of stock cluch and injectors is mostly:
-have fun while testing the "true" limits and posting about it here
-finally fry the stock clutch so I don't feel bad about taking it out and throwing it away
-boost the car quickly instead of overthink and overbuild everything and never enjoy it
After this, my next goal will be to test the limits of this T25G. Then..who knows
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10-30-2014, 02:19 PM
#1412
I had to use a spare battery from another car on the last ms3x to power the stupid MTX-L through cold crank/ase/beginning of WUE.
It works, but is super annoying and frankly I just don't care. AEM is up and running within 3-4 seconds vs like 15-30 for the Innovate.
The stupidest part is that it says "warming up" even after you hot-restart the car. Obviously its not warming up. It's so stupid.
Great wideband otherwise.
It works, but is super annoying and frankly I just don't care. AEM is up and running within 3-4 seconds vs like 15-30 for the Innovate.
The stupidest part is that it says "warming up" even after you hot-restart the car. Obviously its not warming up. It's so stupid.
Great wideband otherwise.
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10-30-2014, 05:17 PM
#1417
I had to use a spare battery from another car on the last ms3x to power the stupid MTX-L through cold crank/ase/beginning of WUE.
It works, but is super annoying and frankly I just don't care. AEM is up and running within 3-4 seconds vs like 15-30 for the Innovate.
The stupidest part is that it says "warming up" even after you hot-restart the car. Obviously its not warming up. It's so stupid.
Great wideband otherwise.
It works, but is super annoying and frankly I just don't care. AEM is up and running within 3-4 seconds vs like 15-30 for the Innovate.
The stupidest part is that it says "warming up" even after you hot-restart the car. Obviously its not warming up. It's so stupid.
Great wideband otherwise.
I wish I found that out before I got my Walbro when I first started buying parts... I still haven't installed it because I now know that my stock pump is doing the job just fine. I guess its nice to know I have it in the garage in case the stock pump ever fails
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10-30-2014, 05:22 PM
#1418
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Depends on your car and your needs. Its a little different in 18psi's NB without vacuum reference on the FPR and 60psi base pressure. The stock NB pump & system is not exactly a team player when you start asking it for much more beyond its design capacity. Its been tested, and its not great. You guys with the NAs have the 1:1 FPR from the factory and base pressure is 43.5psi? Its kinda a different animal.
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10-30-2014, 05:22 PM
#1419
TLDR- more pump means more booosstt
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10-30-2014, 09:29 PM
#1420
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Depends on your car and your needs. Its a little different in 18psi's NB without vacuum reference on the FPR and 60psi base pressure. The stock NB pump & system is not exactly a team player when you start asking it for much more beyond its design capacity. Its been tested, and its not great. You guys with the NAs have the 1:1 FPR from the factory and base pressure is 43.5psi? Its kinda a different animal.
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