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Old 12-11-2014, 02:42 PM   #1021
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Slow down imo. Slow your roll and be more methodical with both your driving and miata building. You're rushing into stuff and trying to get to the end before the slow build up. I have 15k in my car and there are plenty of places where I dumped cash and didn't need to in the name of wanting the best.

Having an NA track car is about having something cheap, reliable and checks the boxes. You won't have power so you better have the best suspension you can afford for example anything else won't do imo. And this is true in another couple of key areas.

You don't want a wide body track car because A) your'e locked into wheel/tire sizes, B) walking away from the shell is a pita. With that car you're basically paying for a ton of stuff you're going to not need or replace. Also... with an NA car you're either bp4w or vvt or gtfo. imo. There's a reason that owner was building a vvt motor...

(i had a big long post typed up... but lost it. In retrospect it's for the best, it came across as preachy and dickish)
Thanks a ton for the input.

FWIW I have taken a step back from Urban's car. I still love it but I'm not feeling 100% on it. It would turn into a profit-seeking venture, which would take a ton of work and I really don't have room on my plate for that. I want something I can buy and enjoy. The widebody adds complexity that I don't need right now, despite all the other great parts on the car, especially the delicious wheels. You can't beat the price I was getting it for when you consider all the stuff, but there's a negative gut feeling I have right now that I can't ignore.

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He makes a lot of good points. You should buy a shell that costs like less than 3k to replace. Something you can crash then buy another junker and spend a weekend at CSTG swapping susp and safety stuff and be at the track the next weekend. The supermiata guys run 15x10s on heavily pulled fenders right?

Another vote for something cheap from me.I crashed my first day at PIR and the only think I really hurt that day was my ego (and martins neck) I don't really care that my car got beat up because it cost me close to nothing.
You do realize that it doesn't matter what shell you have, it'll always cost less than $3k to replace, because the value of your current shell has no bearing on the cost of a replacement shell, right? I mean, think about it... Yes, a widebody shell costs a lot to fix. But if you wad it up and re-shell the car, it makes no difference in cost.

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Damn dude. I've been slowly catching up on this thread and can't believe that it happened all over again. Most importantly I'm glad that everyone is ok.

I know my opinion doesn't mean anything, and it shouldn't, but I would vote for starting over with a reasonably clean but relatively plain NA8 or NB with a torsen. Bonus if it's already got a HD or BF rollbar. Spend money on a good suspension and HPDE instruction and drive the **** out of it for a year. Then start modding.
This is almost exactly what I'm thinking. I've got my eye on a donated auction '99 that I'll buy if it's the right price. I'll know on the 15th if I will get it or not. Aside from that, I found a smurf in WA that I am liking quite a lot as well.. but I'd really really rather have a 1.8 with torsen to start out.
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It bears repeating . . .:

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And so starts the long downhill decline from turbo street car to NA track car to "super miata" clone build.

I've seen it a dozen times...
I'm right there with you bro!
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There's always, I dunno, the option of NOT crashing the car. Between myself, nail, luke, Richard, and Martin we haven't replaced any body panels from track incidents. Knocking on wood.

You'll be very pleased with a 1.6 and good brakes. Getting consistent lap times is very gratifying, and it only gets harder with power.
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Old 12-11-2014, 06:39 PM   #1024
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All of that is true. My concern with the 'glass car is not so much repairing damage from an impact but rather the panels becoming damaged from something as simple as tire clags or even a cone or whatever.

Gonna check out this S2k though....
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Sign your insurance check over to me and i'll deliver a fun NA8.

With built motor goodness. And stuff.
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Old 12-11-2014, 07:17 PM   #1026
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Ha. I have the same problem with it that you do: It's red.
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Ha. I have the same problem with it that you do: It's red.
Easy now.

Who cares what color it is when you're passing everybody!
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Sounds like that smurf is off the options list with a potential buyer.

You still have Dani's too look at, and although you wouldn't have the profit from selling your hardtop, you could have a color matched '95 white with hard top for $3k. It's a '99 open diff originally from my car.
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Idk josh I did hit that brake marker at orp...
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Yes but you haven't spent $20 for paintless dent repair to fix it either, so that doesn't count.

Ed, talk to Dani.
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Josh makes a good point. I crashed because I was going too fast and am not the most experienced/best driver. I think people are talking about crashing because **** happens. Hell, someone else could hit you.
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S2k first. Then we will see what happens.
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S2k first. Then we will see what happens.
Careful with the v-tak
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My roomate has an S2k, not gonna lie its quick. His is also stanced to hell.

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My roomate has an S2k, not gonna lie its quick. His is also stanced to hell.
Wait, when did that become "stanced"?

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You know when you see a picture that fits a situation so perfectly, but you know posting it so soon is just in bad taste? yeahhh.....

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Wait, when did that become "stanced"?



You know when you see a picture that fits a situation so perfectly, but you know posting it so soon is just in bad taste? yeahhh.....

Eh, "riced" is probably a better definition. Superman badge, facebook "like" sticker. Etc.

Idk I thought the picture was ok...
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Eh, "riced" is probably a better definition. Superman badge, facebook "like" sticker. Etc.

Idk I thought the picture was ok...
I was expecting like: lol

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I was expecting like: lol

Nope. He does want a full cage though...
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...but only because it looks cool.

I think there's probably a 50/50 chance I'll pick up this S2k tomorrow... As long as it drives properly...
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