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Old 12-09-2014, 10:12 AM   #3361
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Cos hate it when black people stab Jews in the head inside their own Synagogue:

Cop shoots, kills knife-wielding man who stabbed student at Crown Heights synagogue
POSTED 4:29 AM, DECEMBER 9, 2014, BY CHRISTOPHER BRITO, UPDATED AT 07:46AM, DECEMBER 9, 2014

CROWN HEIGHTS (PIX11)– Authorities say a man stabbed an Israeli student in the head inside a Crown Heights synagogue before being fatally shot by an officer after he refused to drop his weapon.

The police-involved shooting happened at the Chabad Lubavitch World Headquarters located 770 Eastern Parkway around 1:30 a.m.

Police say the man allegedly attacked 23-year-old Levi Rosenblatt, a young student who was worshiping at the religious center. He was taken to a local hospital, but is in stable condition.

The attacker was identified as 49-year-old Calvin Peters, who is believed to be homeless. It’s not clear what the motive was.

Peters was taken to Kings County Hospital, where he died just after 3 a.m.

Mony Ender, the deputy spokesman for Chabad Lubavitch in lsrael, told CNN, “Most likely it is not a hate crime. The assailant was not (running) amok. He stabbed one person, with an ordinary kitchen knife, although he could have attacked many more people who were there.”

Footage surfaced of the altercation, showing the officer shooting the man once after he refused to let go of his weapon.

Another video shows the man lying on the floor.

[VIDEO] Cop shoots, kills knife-wielding man who stabbed student at Crown Heights synagogue | New York's PIX11 / WPIX-TV


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Even cops recognize how racist and violent most cops are.

Being a cop showed me just how racist and violent the police are. There?s only one fix. - The Washington Post

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As a kid, I got used to being stopped by the police. I grew up in an inner-ring suburb of St. Louis. It was the kind of place where officers routinely roughed up my friends and family for no good reason.

I hated the way cops treated me.

But I knew police weren’t all bad. One of my father’s closest friends was a cop. He became a mentor to me and encouraged me to join the force. He told me that I could use the police’s power and resources to help my community.

So in 1994, I joined the St. Louis Police Department. I quickly realized how naive I’d been. I was floored by the dysfunctional culture I encountered.

I won’t say all, but many of my peers were deeply racist.

One example: A couple of officers ran a Web site called St. Louis Coptalk, where officers could post about their experience and opinions. At some point during my career, it became so full of racist rants that the site administrator temporarily shut it down. Cops routinely called anyone of color a “thug,” whether they were the victim or just a bystander.

This attitude corrodes the way policing is done.

As a cop, it shouldn’t surprise you that people will curse at you, or be disappointed by your arrival. That’s part of the job. But too many times, officers saw young black and brown men as targets. They would respond with force to even minor offenses. And because cops are rarely held accountable for their actions, they didn’t think too hard about the consequences.

Once, I accompanied an officer on a call. At one home, a teenage boy answered the door. That officer accused him of harboring a robbery suspect, and demanded that he let her inside. When he refused, the officer yanked him onto the porch by his throat and began punching him.

Another officer met us and told the boy to stand. He replied that he couldn’t. So the officer slammed him against the house and cuffed him. When the boy again said he couldn’t walk, the officer grabbed him by his ankles and dragged him to the car. It turned out the boy had been on crutches when he answered the door, and couldn’t walk.

Back at the department, I complained to the sergeant. I wanted to report the misconduct. But my manager squashed the whole thing and told me to get back to work.

I, too, have faced mortal danger. I’ve been shot at and attacked. But I know it’s almost always possible to defuse a situation.

Once, a sergeant and I got a call about someone wielding a weapon in an apartment. When we showed up, we found someone sitting on the bed with a very large butcher knife. Rather than storming him and screaming “put the knife down” like my colleagues would have done, we kept our distance. We talked to him, tried to calm him down.

It became clear to us that he was dealing with mental illness. So eventually, we convinced him to come to the hospital with us.

I’m certain many other officers in the department would have escalated the situation fast. They would have screamed at him, gotten close to him, threatened him. And then, any movement from him, even an effort to drop the knife, would have been treated as an excuse to shoot until their clips were empty.

* * *

I liked my job, and I was good at it.

But more and more, I felt like I couldn’t do the work I set out to do. I was participating in a profoundly corrupt criminal justice system. I could not, in good conscience, participate in a system that was so intentionally unfair and racist. So after five years on the job, I quit.

Since I left, I’ve thought a lot about how to change the system. I’ve worked on police abuse, racial justice and criminal justice reform at the Missouri ACLU and other organizations.

Unfortunately, I don’t think better training alone will reduce police brutality. My fellow officers and I took plenty of classes on racial sensitivity and on limiting the use of force.

The problem is that cops aren’t held accountable for their actions, and they know it. These officers violate rights with impunity. They know there’s a different criminal justice system for civilians and police.

Even when officers get caught, they know they’ll be investigated by their friends, and put on paid leave. My colleagues would laughingly refer to this as a free vacation. It isn’t a punishment. And excessive force is almost always deemed acceptable in our courts and among our grand juries. Prosecutors are tight with law enforcement, and share the same values and ideas.

We could start to change that by mandating that a special prosecutor be appointed to try excessive force cases. And we need more independent oversight, with teeth. I have little confidence in internal investigations.

The number of people in uniform who will knowingly and maliciously violate your human rights is huge. At the Ferguson protests, people are chanting, “The whole damn system is guilty as hell.” I agree, and we have a lot of work to do.
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Even cops recognize how racist and violent most cops are.
Old theme; racial stereotypes exist for a reason.

More than 50% of homicides in the US are committed by blacks, despite the fact that they account for only 13% of the population.

A white person is twice as likely to be killed by a black person than a black person is to be killed by a white person.

Source: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf (see pages 3, 11-13.)
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Old theme; racial stereotypes exist for a reason.
Apparently, to justify police dragging a kid on crutches out of his home by his ankles.
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Maybe the black community in st. Louis should be required to take classes on how to be more sensitive to their police officers.
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Maybe the black community in st. Louis should be required to take classes on how to be more sensitive to their police officers.
Based upon first-hand experience of having worked in downtown St. Louis, pretty much the entire population of the area would benefit from being thrown into the river.


On another note, I finally found an example of white people rioting in response to a court decision which they disagreed with.

In San Francisco in 1979, Dan White (a white person) assassinated George Moscone (a white person) and Harvey Milk (also a white person.) The prosecution charged White with first degree murder, however White played the Twinkie Defense and wound up with voluntary manslaughter.

In response, a bunch of white people in SF marched and then rioted. They mostly kept the destruction concentrated to city hall and the immediate vicinity, and didn't target a bunch of private businesses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Night_riots
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Based upon first-hand experience of having worked in downtown St. Louis, pretty much the entire population of the area would benefit from being thrown into the river.
Why do you hate the environment so much? Do you have any idea how long it would take the river to recover?
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From today.

I'm not sure if it's just LEO's trying to promote that they do good in unconventional ways to distract everyone from what they actually do or what. Perhaps just wasting taxpayer money.

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From today.

I'm not sure if it's just LEO's trying to promote that they do good in unconventional ways to distract everyone from what they actually do or what. Perhaps just wasting taxpayer money.
Perhaps the answer is something that doesn't easily fit into the structure of a conspiracy theory?


On an unrelated note, cops hate it when you ride your bicycle through a residential neighborhood, with an axe, while high, at 3am:
THE PEOPLE, Plaintiff and Respondent, v.
ROBERT FRANCIS FORANYIC, Defendant and Appellant.

No. G020544.
Court of Appeal, Fourth District, Division 3, California.
May 27, 1998.

SUMMARY:

Defendant pled guilty to possession of methamphetamine after the trial court denied his motion to suppress evidence against him seized following his arrest for intoxication. The arresting officer had initially detained defendant, who was seen with an ax riding a bicycle at 3 a.m. (Superior Court of Orange County, No. 96WF0961, Anthony J. Rackauckas, Jr., and William M. Monroe, Judges.)

The Court of Appeal affirmed.

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A reasonable police officer, considering the totality of the circumstances, would reasonably suspect criminal activity might be afoot upon viewing someone riding a bicycle, with an ax, at 3 a.m., even though no recent “ax crime” had been reported.


While Foranyic insists there was nothing about him which suggested criminal activity, he is unable to suggest, and we cannot conceive of, much in the way of noncriminal activity which is accomplished with an ax in the dead of night. The officer could reasonably eliminate firefighting and lumberjacking from the list of possible pursuits Foranyic might have been engaged in. And while there are doubtless some reasonable explanations which might be conjured up, “The possibility of an innocent explanation does not deprive the officer of the capacity to entertain a reasonable suspicion of criminal conduct.”


We view this as such conduct. While it is true that there are many legitimate uses for an ax, they are generally daylight activities. A consensus seems to have developed that recognizes the inadvisability of wielding an ax in darkness.


Nor can we ignore the long history of the ax as a weapon. While no one refers to a “gun-murderer” or “knife-murderer” or “crowbar-murderer,” the equivalent usage with regard to an ax is well ensconced in American usage. The ax, like the machete and the straight razor, is an implement whose unfortunate utility as a weapon sometimes overshadows its value as a tool.


This incident did take place during the hours of darkness. Stygian darkness. No one who has ever worked a graveyard shift can underestimate the significance of any bicycle traffic at that hour, much less lethally armed bicycle traffic. In People v. Holloway (1985) 176 Cal.App.3d 150,155 [221 Cal.Rptr. 394], the court upheld a detention based upon the defendant's presence in a high-crime area with four other men. While acknowledging the defendant's right to be in such an area conversing with acquaintances, the court explained, “Three a.m., on the other hand, is both a late and an unusual hour for anyone to be in attendance at an outdoor social gathering, particularly in a residential neighborhood where he does not reside.” (Id. at p. 155.)We consider it equally unusual to be abroad at that hour on any errand that requires an ax.


Thus, while it is true no “ax crime” had been reported, and while it is true the officer was not asked what specific crime he might have thought he was investigating when he ordered Foranyic to dismount, it was nonetheless reasonable, logical and legal for the officer to require Foranyic to spend a few minutes explaining himself and these circumstances, which were not *191 only unusual, but unique in the annals of reported California decisions. Some things cannot be ignored.


The judgment is affirmed.

Westlaw: People v. Foranyic
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Cops hate it when you're a cop:


Retired NYPD detective believes he was racially profiled during attack by fellow officers
POSTED 6:30 PM, DECEMBER 10, 2014, BY NICOLE JOHNSON



WASHINGTON HEIGHTS (PIX11) — An NYPD detective believes he was racially profiled when he was attacked by three officers outside a Washington Heights night club two years ago.

In an exclusive interview with PIX11 News, Harold Thomas said he was attacked by fellow officers after a night of partying at La Marina night club in Manhattan with his son and friends.

The detective said the night took a terrible turn when he walked back to his SUV. Two uniformed officers approached him and said the Cadillac Escalade fit the description of a “shots fired” call.

Thomas said he quickly identified himself to the officers.

“I showed them both my ID and said I am Detective Harold Thomas,” he said.

The 28-year veteran detective had an official police plaque in the window of his SUV, his shield and his service weapon, but Thomas said the ordeal was far from over.

“[The third cop] spins me around, slams my head on the roof of my car, made a dent in the car, grabbed me by the seat of my pants, throws me head first.”

When more officers, including a lieutenant, arrived to the scene, Thomas said things got even more out of control.

“I said lieutenant can you take these cuffs of me, but he mushed me in the face and almost knocked me down,” Thomas said when the officer arrived to the scene. “I did not want to get hurt bad.”

Thomas was charged with DWI, resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer, but they were immediately dismissed. He believes he was profiled and targeted because he is black. Since the incident, Thomas said he has not received an apology.

The incident changed Thomas. After going through hearings and departmental reviews, Thomas retired.

He is still proud of the work he has done throughout his career and still believes the NYPD is the best department in the country, but admits his trust in police officers has decreased.

NYPD detective claims he was racially profiled when attacked by cops | New York's PIX11 / WPIX-TV
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umm....that not the conclusion i would draw.....
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umm....that not the conclusion i would draw.....
I agree.
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Perhaps the answer is something that doesn't easily fit into the structure of a conspiracy theory?
Why do you attempt to dismiss everything you disagree with as a "conspiracy theory"? You've done this repeatedly here and in various political threads.

Nobody is claiming that police are willfully and intentionally engaged in a nationwide conspiracy to abuse their power. Their actions don't have to be coordinated. But they can be a part of the same problem. There can be patterns. Calling it a conspiracy theory in an attempt to discredit it carries no weight, because nobody is advocating that perspective.
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Nobody is claiming that police are willfully and intentionally engaged in a nationwide conspiracy to abuse their power.
Erat made the following observation:

"I'm not sure if it's just LEO's trying to promote that they do good in unconventional ways to distract everyone from what they actually do or what."


A group of LEOs, collectively and deliberately engaging in a coordinated action to obfuscate their true intentions, is a textbook example of a conspiracy.

I'm not sure why you believe that conspiracies can exist only at a national level (I inferred that from your writing "...intentionally engaged in a nationwide conspiracy") but Erat is most certainly positing that they may be involved in a local conspiracy.



That having been said, I don't dismiss everything I disagree with as a conspiracy theory. Much of it is just obvious trolling and muckraking.
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You know what the connotation of the phrase "conspiracy theory" is just as well as I do.
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we all post here instead of doing real work.

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apparently kids aren't dogs:


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cops still arresting people and throwing people in jail, overnight, without charges, for video recording, even though the supreme court has ruled that this is a protected action:

[ll]5da_1418226011[/ll]

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want free reign?

"dont make me have fear for my safety"


works everytime.
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beat, cited, and released:

Man Asks Cop Nicely to Stop Blocking Traffic, So the Cop Beat Him and Stomped his Head | The Free Thought Project


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