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Old 11-21-2013, 12:11 PM   #741
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that fact that none of you commented about the last vid i posted makes me think youre all heartless...
"most people are bad so there for most cops are bad"
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what does that have to do with anything?
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what does that have to do with anything?
which one is it?
if most people are bad and the world is what people make it
then how can the world not be as bad as i might think?

it's just a long way of saying
yeah i'm heartless

btw game and fish is trained as regular law enforcement in most states
they have all the rights and privileges as city, state, or local police - they also could be looked at as if they had even more power because they frequently have the right to arrest people anywhere in an entire state
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:28 PM   #744
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You can't just randomly discuss random **** I've said in various threads when I was looking for a response to the video in post #105 in the "world is not as bad as you think" thread. This was NOT the thread for it.

Now to address you comments:

I personally don't think most people are bad. I think most as good, and only a few are truly evil. I believe the quote I actually said was: gov't = bad, police = gov't, therefore police = bad.

But something I posted in a different thread, months ago, has no bearing to that thread. Just because you have issues with people, doesn't mean you should just **** in that thread for no reason.

As for fish and game, (back on topic for THIS thread), yes I know what power they wield. And that's a problem, not only are ourt police militarized, so is the EPA, Fish and Game, IRS, etc. etc. It's NOT a good thing. Soon food inspectors will start carrying and executing chefs if they don't pass code.
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:36 PM   #745
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You can't just random discuss random **** I've said in various threads when I was looking for a response to the video in post 105.

This is NOT the thread for it.
So you're saying that you have one point of view in another thread and a different one in this thread on two subject matters that can and do frequently go together -
Tell me how "the world isn't as bad as I think" could never go together with the warrior cop problem
A page back you had a post of a cop riding a bike with some kids
Look I don't want to go into a big debate
I'm only trying to make the point that you seem to have a bit of self contradiction going on there
For someone who really reads this forum quite a bit, it's easy for me to notice...
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:59 PM   #746
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The Manbottle Library - Police Use Helicopter for Doughnut Run

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ALBUQUERQUE (Reuters) - An Albuquerque policeman and his pilot face disciplinary measures after using a police helicopter this week to swoop in for a midnight snack of doughnuts, officials said on Friday.
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:03 PM   #747
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Driver Arrested in Ohio for Secret Car Compartment Full of Nothing - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:05 PM   #748
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Its not self contradiction. He is pointing out a problem he sees with law enforcement. You can acknowledge that some police officers are, in fact good at their job, while still holding the belief that the police as a whole are bad. Cops also do not make up the entire world. There is a lot of negative reporting in the world and the other thread is just shedding light on the good things that still happen and give you a different perspective on life. I'm not really seeing what you're trying to get at or why?
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because he wants to get banned? thank you ryan.
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Its not self contradiction. He is pointing out a problem he sees with law enforcement. You can acknowledge that some police officers are, in fact good at their job, while still holding the belief that the police as a whole are bad. Cops also do not make up the entire world. There is a lot of negative reporting in the world and the other thread is just shedding light on the good things that still happen and give you a different perspective on life. I'm not really seeing what you're trying to get at or why?
I totally agree that the problems pointed out with law enforcement in this thread are totally true and that the "warrior cop mentality" is a real problem.

In fact one of my best friends spent the last 4 years as a sheriff in the county where the article at the start of this thread takes place. He actually knows the guy that was fired from Auburn PD and has told me about the real problems there.

And I agree with Brain that the police as a whole are bad. I also already know that cops don't make up the whole world and that there is small percentage that is actually good. But "cops don't make up the whole world" isn't what he said. That's what you said (Ryan)

He said people as a whole people are bad - cops are people - so cops are bad
I stand by my statement that first saying people as a whole are bad and then saying well the world isn't so bad is a contradiction of the 2 ideals. I feel like one is either clinical or not.
But hey, maybe I live in a world of too many definites (black and white with no grey).

BTW threatening to ban me over pointing out a different view (or one that contradicts yours) is just as bully like or corrupt as the system you fill this forum full of threads criticizing every day....
You can say that I was off subject matter in the other thread, but again I stand by my statement that they go together.
I rarely even post on this forum and when I do it's typically just car stuff. I have strong views about the world, but don't typically like to stand on a soap box about them.
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Old 11-21-2013, 04:57 PM   #751
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most people are bad, cops are people, therefore most cops are bad.

govt is inherently evil, cops are the govt, therefore cops are inherently evil.


a cop's job is to write tickets and make money for the state, so why should I like cops? a give them a break? I've never had a good encounter with a cop, im pretty sure the majority of cop who interact with one will say the same.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:53 PM   #752
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your comments were just so out of left field it just make logical sense.

You took something I posted months ago (07-18-2013), and then quoted to it randomly in a different unrelated thread that had nothing to do with law enforcement. It was a video about some dude who saved over 900 Jewish lives in **** Germany and those people confronting him for the first time 40 something odd years later.

If you wanted to talk about that quote it would have been fine, but it would have made sense to actually quote it, in the same thread it was posted in, and then actually, I dunno, comment about it. You also forget I like to speak in hyperbole and say things to get a rile out of people.

I actually don't believe men as a whole are bad, BUT,

I'm too lazy to regurgitate this, so I'll just quote it, it says what I want to say quite well:

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The truly and deliberately evil men are a very small minority; it is the appeaser who unleashes them on mankind; it is the appeaser’s intellectual abdication that invites them to take over. When a culture’s dominant trend is geared to irrationality, the thugs win over the appeasers. When intellectual leaders fail to foster the best in the mixed, unformed, vacillating character of people at large, the thugs are sure to bring out the worst. When the ablest men turn into cowards, the average men turn into brutes.
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Modifying your car to have a hidden compartment is now a felony in Ohio. God forbid I put a false floor in my car to hide my handgun for safe keeping while I go into a federal building or other location.

First person arrested under new 'hidden compartment' law
Sec. 2923.241 (I) of the law states it “does not apply to a box, safe, container, or other item added to a vehicle for the purpose of securing valuables, electronics, or firearms,” as long as said container “does not contain a controlled substance or visible residue of a controlled substance.”

Since the cops have said it was empty, and that they wouldn't have any charges EXCEPT the "trap car" law to hold him on (IE: no visible drug residue) then they have illegally arrested this man.

But hey, it's not about the letter of the law, unless it is, and it's not about the spirit of the law, unless it is.

Oh, and bonus law? "(G) This section does not apply to any law enforcement officer acting in the performance of the law enforcement officer's duties." None of that is illegal if you're a cop. You can build and design a hidden compartment in any vehicle with the specific intent of hiding controlled substances as long as you're a cop. See, now they're codifying police immunity, rather than leaving it as one of the unspoken rules.

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The truly and deliberately evil men are a very small minority; it is the appeaser who unleashes them on mankind; it is the appeaser’s intellectual abdication that invites them to take over. When a culture’s dominant trend is geared to irrationality, the thugs win over the appeasers. When intellectual leaders fail to foster the best in the mixed, unformed, vacillating character of people at large, the thugs are sure to bring out the worst. When the ablest men turn into cowards, the average men turn into brutes.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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because he wants to get banned? thank you ryan.
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BTW threatening to ban me over pointing out a different view (or one that contradicts yours) is just as bully like or corrupt as the system you fill this forum full of threads criticizing every day....
Look's like I am not the only one who has noticed it. Maybe you should sack up and deal with differing opinions like a man.

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You wanna get banned again?

I want to be clear: I wouldn't have banned him for differing opinions, nor have I ever banned you for that Dann, stop playing the victim. But when I said it, it was funny and ironic.

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In Miami Gardens, store video catches cops in the act - Miami Gardens / Opa-locka - MiamiHerald.com

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...Saleh was so troubled by what he saw that he decided to install video cameras in his store. Not to protect himself from criminals, because he says he has never been robbed. He installed the cameras — 15 of them — he said, to protect him and his customers from police.

Since he installed the cameras in June 2012 he has collected more than two dozen videos, some of which have been obtained by the Miami Herald. Those tapes, and Sampson’s 38-page criminal history — including charges never even pursued by prosecutors — raise some troubling questions about the conduct of the city’s police officers...
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16 yr old beat by police cause he was scared, tried to run, was taken to the ground after getting maybe 10 feet then was attacked by police when he didnt turn over immediately when told by the officer


16 yr old beat by police with a flashlight and tazed. police use siren to try and cover up the screams.
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Former Avalon cop convicted of assault; Video of incident... | www.wpxi.com

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Former Avalon cop convicted of assault; Video of incident released,
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A western Pennsylvania police officer who was fired after he refused a random drug test last year has been convicted of beating a handcuffed prisoner in a holding cell and then trying to cover it up.
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