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Old 12-16-2013, 10:35 AM   #921
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Boston PD's new assault rifles raise concern over militarization of police | Al Jazeera America

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Saying it has to keep up in arms race with street criminals, department will put AR-15 rifles in patrol cars

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On April 15 — when two bombs exploded at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and injuring more than 260 — the plan to buy the rifles was already in the works. But the attack and its aftermath, including an extensive manhunt by heavily armed police, highlighted “a situation where we didn’t have a sufficient number of officers properly equipped,” Fong said.

Edward Davis, who recently stepped down as the city’s police commissioner, proposed the idea in 2007.

“There was some hesitance to move forward with it at that time,” Davis told Al Jazeera. “I think that it’s appropriate that it’s starting back up again.”

Two years later, Boston police ordered about 200 semiautomatic M16s from the U.S. military under a federal surplus program and planned to distribute them to neighborhood officers before Mayor Thomas Menino thwarted the plan, the Boston Globe reported at the time. But some 82 police departments elsewhere in Massachusetts, many facing little or no violent crime but fearing terrorist attacks, have obtained more than 1,000 such weapons.
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:37 AM   #922
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Charges dropped against couple after two kilos of cocaine turn out to be hand soap - Morning Call

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When a state trooper pulled the couple over along Interstate 78 last month, he said he stopped them because they were going 5 miles over the speed limit and hugging the side of the lane.

The trooper said he smelled marijuana. The driver of the new Mercedes-Benz, 26-year-old Annadel Cruz, told him she had smoked the drug before she left New York City, but had not done so in the car. [idiot]

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The trooper asked to search the car, and Cruz consented [idiot]. When the trooper found two plastic-wrapped packages in the trunk of the car, Cruz told him they contained soap she had made herself.

The trooper field-tested them and Cruz and her friend, 30-year-old Alexander Bernstein, spent the next month in Lehigh County Prison after being arrested on cocaine-trafficking charges.

They got out this week after the Lehigh County district attorney's office dropped the charges because a state police lab tested the packages and found they contained boric acid or soap.
recurring theme: police only pull you over to arrest you for other things that you tell them about. dont give them the power to do so so you don't spend a month in jail on a bogus charge.
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Old 12-17-2013, 07:09 AM   #924
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Classy, officer, very classy. Should be fired and charged, but probably won't be.
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:44 AM   #925
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am i being detained?

yes.

what for?

because we need to find out who you are.

(recurring theme: cops always mistake being "suspicious" with a reasonable and articulable suspicion suspect is about to or is committing a crime [see terry vs. ohio])
Airport policy:
Filming on Airport Property
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People wishing to film or photograph on Airport property for commercial purposes must submit the following, as detailed in Operating Directive D901.01.02:
After the video went public, a bunch of people took to the Police/Airport's FB pages:




Police Chief called to apologize:


Wanted to call and say "we blew it".


See what happens when you film police? They become accountable.
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:37 PM   #926
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Judge upholds firing of Des Plaines cop - chicagotribune.com

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A Cook County judge upheld the firing of a Des Plaines police officer accused of using excessive force, city officials announced late today. Dec 16

The ruling last Friday Dec. 13 by Judge Sophia Hall overturns an arbitrator's decision this past May that stated Officer John Bueno could return to work in June of this year.

Des Plaines City Manager Michael Bartholomew applauded the judge's reversal of that decision, and was quoted in a press release saying the facts surrounding Bueno's firing in March of 2012 have “never been in dispute.”

“The issue has been how severe the discipline should be,” he said in the release. “We believe strongly that Mr. Bueno gave up the privilege of being a Des Plaines police officer when he violated the city's use of force policy, failed to report his use of force on more than one occasion, and then fabricated a story when questioned about these incidents.”

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Despite affirming the city’s findings about some of Bueno’s conduct, the arbitrator ruled that Bueno should be allowed to return to the department, saying the city lacked just cause to fire him because it didn't investigate until a year after the last reported incident.

The arbitrator also stated that multiple members of the police department's command staff were aware of Bueno's actions and failed to investigate them.

Those actions, the arbitrator stated, “sent (Bueno) a message that his use of force would not be penalized. As a result, the department command staff is partly at fault for (Bueno's) misconduct.”

City officials had immediately vowed to fight the arbitrator’s decision in court.
it's kinda sad that an employer can't just fire a staff member for any damn reason it wants and it has to go to a judge. We don't live in France for God's sake...
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:51 PM   #927
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look at this smug ******* cop:



he's a smug ************. look at the smug *** face, he came to the damn private residence to give them **** about washing a car in a driveway.

He even had the ordinance already printed out ready to read to them. Problem is the law even says in a public place...

The law is clear:

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Cleaning or washing of rugs, furniture or vehicles.

No person shall wash or cause to be washed, clean or cause to be cleaned, beat or cause to be beaten any rugs, curtains, furniture, tapestry, clothing or other like articles upon any sidewalk, public street, highway or public place within the village, and no person shall wash or cause to be washed any motor vehicle or like conveyance upon any public street, highway or public place.
then goes searching the car and writes down the VIN on private property...complete BS fishing expedition.

"this is a battle you don't want to start." "you dont want us being upset with you."

I would have probably been arrested if this happened on my driveway...
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You keep saying that failure to identify isn't illegal. It is here in Arizona. We have to provide our "true full name on request of a peace officer who has lawfully detained the person based on reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime." If we don't, it's a Class 2 Misdemeanor. We are not required to answer any other questions.
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I don't understand, you said it yourself: based on reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime.

So do I in VA, if they legally detain me.

BUT probably 90% of the videos I post and say that, the officer claims that they are being detained because they need to identify or are being detained on suspicion of no crime.

That's like arresting someone for resisting arrest; it doesn't work that way.

For example, the one I just posted and said that, the officer asked for ID for someone taking pictures from a public roadway. That's not illegal; it violated no laws. It might have violated some arbitrary random policy of some random company, but that is not breaking the law either. You can't be arrested/charge for violating the policy of a company.

So there was no reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime, the reason the officer articulated was "because I need to identify you". That's not a legal reason, or a legal reason to detain someone.

That's why I keep saying it.

But read your law again:

13-2412. Refusing to provide truthful name when lawfully detained; classification

It clearly says it's illegal to refuse to identify after being detained and being advised it's against the law to refuse after being detained.

So you MUST be legally detained first, refuse, then be advised it's illegal, THEN refuse again for you to violate that law.

What an officer can't do is walk up to you and ask for id, which is what is happening in most those video I'm posting.


You aren't required to carry documents with you, you only need a license to prove you can drive. A cop needs a legal reason to first detain you and then ask for your ID. What people should do is stop carrying their documents unless required by law for the specific task they are doing. Taking pictures of things in public from public property, or public accessible property does not require an ID or license or any sort.
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I think it's all summed up in line one of the ACLU's packet titled "Your Rights and The Police"
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DO give your name and the information on your drivers’ license. If you don’t, you may be
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No way.

how about this:

DONT answer questions. DONT give your name/ID.

**** the ACLU.
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More good Judging:

East Haven man’s charge dismissed in Facebook ‘toy gun’ case

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Appi’s quest to point out what he has claimed are security flaws at Joseph Melillo Middle School began in October when he arrived at the school after-hours to pick up his daughter and noticed the front door was wide open. Appi proceeded to film himself entering the school. He later shot another film of himself opening a side-door. He filmed the second video on a Sunday while his daughter was participating with her cheer-leading team at a youth football game held at the school.

He uploaded both videos to his Facebook account. Police did not get involved until Melillo Principal Matthew Espinosa directed them to a comment Appi made on his Facebook page where he wrote, “Maybe I have to walk in with toy guns to prove a point.”

Espinosa told police Appi’s comment prompted concerned parents to flood his office with “at least 50 calls.”

On Monday Appi’s attorney, Joseph M. Wicklow, pointed out to Judge Brian T. Fisher that in his client’s arrest report, East Haven police “took literary license” when they added an exclamation point after the toy gun comment. Wicklow also argued that his client’s post was lengthy and that police included only the toy gun comment in Appi’s arrest warrant application.

Prosecutor Laura DeLeo offered Appi a nolle, meaning the state would not pursue criminal charges.
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He was taking care of a handicapped child, but police busted him as a sex criminal and humiliated him in the media.

Now a federal lawsuit aims to restore the reputation of Charles Samuel Couch, grant him restitution, and reign in a police department that allegedly makes a habit of arresting men during sex stings without warrant or probable cause and publicizing the false arrests.
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I'm not saying that anything the driver did was excusable, but why is it always bullets first questions later? His light was green at the end; the guy he hit ran the red light...
Because a lot of them aren't the heroes that they and the media would like us to believe, instead they are cowards. They know the risks of their job when they start, but once they are in the field, they aren't willing to take the necessary risks to end conflicts non violently. They shoot to protect themselves instead of the people they are there to protect.
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school involves a police officer to deal with a troubled kid, kid ends up arrested and hog tied for 2 hours and in a mental ward:

That is beyond ******* ridiculous and disgusting. That cop needs to have his *** beat bloody for some **** like that.
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look at this smug ******* cop:



he's a smug ************. look at the smug *** face, he came to the damn private residence to give them **** about washing a car in a driveway.

He even had the ordinance already printed out ready to read to them. Problem is the law even says in a public place...

The law is clear:



then goes searching the car and writes down the VIN on private property...complete BS fishing expedition.

"this is a battle you don't want to start." "you dont want us being upset with you."

I would have probably been arrested if this happened on my driveway...
As mad as it makes me just watching it, I know I would have been taken away in cuffs, possibly beaten up. I'm quite sure something like "get the **** off of my property" would have come out of my mouth after he started in with the "you don't want us mad at you". So often you see cops not even understanding the laws they are supposed to be enforcing. I think there should be an IQ test to be in law enforcement, as a lot of cops seem to be pretty dumb.
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No way.

how about this:

DONT answer questions. DONT give your name/ID.

**** the ACLU.
THIS!

As you said in a previous post, I think I am going to make it a point to stop carrying ID when I'm not driving, or not going somewhere where I will need it. Though I've honestly never been stopped and questioned by law enforcement outside of my vehicle anyway.
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Assistant District Attorny has to try really hard to get himself arrested to get an inside look at the justice system.

I Got Myself Arrested So I Could Look Inside the Justice System - Bobby Constantino - The Atlantic

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Over the next 24 hours, I watched as men and women came and went, many with cuts, bruises, and welts. I asked several of them how they’d been injured, and they described fierce struggles with the police. One young man cradled what he reported was a broken wrist. Another pulled up his shirt and revealed three Taser burns. Yet another removed his fitted cap and pointed to a swollen knot on his head. I exchanged uncomfortable glances with the few other white men in the cellblock.

“Did they treat you like that?” I whispered.

“No, you?”

“No.” We held out our wrists to compare.
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Tempe Cop Arrested After High-Speed Chase, Posts Bond, Then Leads Cops on Another Chase

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A Tempe police officer was arrested this weekend after allegedly driving drunk at more than 120 mph in a bid to outrun on-duty officers.

Then, authorities say, Tempe Police Officer Garrett Peterson posted $10,000 bond and led law enforcement on another high-speed chase, this time near Yuma.
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Hate crime triggers federal oversight of New York suburb's police - CNN.com

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Another step in that change came Tuesday when Suffolk County legislators voted 14-0, with four absent, for an agreement that gives the U.S. Justice Department rare oversight of the Suffolk County police. County officials later said another vote was taken with three of the absent legislators present, and the settlement was approved 17-0.

The 27-page agreement settles a federal investigation of discriminatory policing in immigrant communities in Suffolk, one of the nation's largest suburbs and home to ritzy East Hampton. That investigation was triggered by the 2008 hate crime, which fueled international outcry and exposed a pattern of anti-immigrant violence and what community leaders called police inaction.
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