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Old 07-29-2013, 03:35 PM   #81
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On Memorial Day, Miami-Dade police wrestled fourteen-year-old Tremaine McMillian to the ground and put him in a chokehold. What did he do? Clench his fists and give police “dehumanizing stares.”

On July 16, Tremaine faces trial for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest with violence - a felony. Watch the film to the left, then click the button to the right to sign the petition asking the state of Florida to DROP THE CASE.
UPDATE: All charges against Tremaine McMillian were dropped on July 16, 2013.

witnesses say the kid was just walking, then tackled. kid pee'd himself during excessive force...
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Cigarettes Can Kill: Florida Deputies Shoot Man Looking for a Smoke in His Own Driveway - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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Autopsy: Bean bag rounds fired by police killed Park Forest man, 95 - chicagotribune.com

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The 95-year-old resident of a Park Forest senior living community who died after a Friday confrontation with police was killed by the bean-bag rounds police fired at him, the Cook County medical examiner's office determined following an autopsy today.

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Warna was being "involuntarily" committed for medical treatment by staff at the Victory Centre, the release said.

When police arrived, Warna was threatening staff and paramedics with a metal cane and a 2-foot metal shoehorn, the release said. Police demanded that he drop the cane and shoehorn, but he did not comply and then picked up a "12-inch butcher type kitchen knife."

Police continued to demand that Warna surrender and follow their orders and eventually used a Taser on him. That failed to subdue him and he continued to threaten others, the release said. Police then fired bean bag rounds at the man to get him to drop the knife and surrender. He did so and was taken into custody.
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Old 07-30-2013, 01:51 PM   #85
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Man, 34, Claims LAPD Officers Used Excessive Force During Bike Stop « CBS Los Angeles

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A 34-year-old man is recovering Monday from several injuries he said he sustained from a violent encounter with Los Angeles Police Department officers late last week.

Brian Cisneros told KCAL9’s Suraya Fadel that he was riding his bike to his job at Ralphs in Marina del Rey Friday night when he claims he was approached by two LAPD Pacific Division officers at Ida and Redwood avenues.

“The doors flew open, and the lights were on me. They drew their guns down, and they just attacked me. And they threw me on the floor, and they started stomping my face in,” he said.

Cisneros added, “They choked me out and all that, and then they threw me on their hood.”

The alleged victim said he never resisted the officers.

“(I thought) I’m gonna die, I’m never going to see my kids again,” he said.

At the end of the ordeal, Cisneros said the officers cited him “for no lights after hours of darkness.”
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Lawsuit Claims Cops Let Police Dog Rip Apart Sleeping Woman's Leg, Joked That Dog Deserved "A Slurpee!" | Alternet

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According to the lawsuit, the incident started in a Utah suburb in May 2012. Hess and friend named Gavin DeGraw called for a taxi from an Arby’s restaurant after one of their bikes broke down.

But the taxi driver did not want to put the bikes in the back of the car, and an argument ensued. DeGraw called the taxi driver, who was Arab, a racial epithet. A fight broke out, with the taxi driver wailing on DeGraw. Hess called for both of them to stop. Though DeGraw told his friend to go home, Hess heard sirens and decided to stick around.

Hess went near a high school and sat down. Then, she passed out--only to be awakened when a dog began to bite her. Police officers approached the area and took no action as Hess screamed for the dog to stop.

One of the officers ordered Hess to stand up, but she couldn’t because the dog injured her leg. One cop became “enraged” and then dragged her and threw her on the grass. The police officer handcuffed her.

Chunks of Hess’ muscle were sticking out, and one of the officers also ripped her jeans and exposed Hess.

What’s even worse is that after the dog attack, a cop over the police dispatcher allegedly said things like, “‘you two rock,' 'Wish we had instant photos in here!,' 'Severe trauma to the leg?,' 'Awesome extra treat for Vortex and you deserve a Slurpee!'"
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"well if im not being detained, then im going to go ahead and go."

"no"

"im going to ask you to hang out with us"

"so i AM being detained..."


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"IT DOESN"T MATTER IF YOU DON'T CONSENT; I suggest you learn the law a little better" (to a warrantless, suspicionless search).
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You missed the funniest part. "Siri, call my attorney. Siri, call my attorney."

The police ask for an ID and the idiot answers, "Am I being detained?" It's pretty clear to everyone at that moment that the only reason he was there was to agitate the police to get a cute video to share with his peeps on youtube.

The police checked out a flashlight that was attached to his belt like a knife...not like they striped his clothes off and molested him.

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Terry vs Ohio look it up.

You don't have to give police your ID unless you have been detained (or arrested in some states). In order to be detained, police must have believe you are committing a crime, or about to commit a crime.

Taking pictures of a building within a public space is not a crime.

As far as the "knife" is concerned, Terry law says, that in order for a police to search you for weapons the police must believe the suspect is armed and dangerous; it has to be both, not one or the other. Having a pocket knife is not illegal, the person in the video was not dangerous and didn't deserve or consent to having his persons, houses, papers, and effects searched/examined/seized.

The point is here is not: "the only reason he was there was to agitate the police to get a cute video to share with his peeps on youtube." and that doesn't justify any actions of the police to break the law.

The guy that posted the video was performing a "test". There are hundreds and hundreds of videos on youtube where photographers are being harassed by police. This guy wanted to see what police would do to him. He didn't agitate the police, he didn't want to interact with the police. He was taking pictures of a flag pole and a memorial and HE was harassed by the police.

The problem here is, they took something perfectly legal and legitimate as an excuse to harass a citizen. They wanted his papers, where they'd look for warrants, they searched him, and they wanted him to self-incriminate himself. I mean, here's a guy minding his own business, doing something perfectly legal, no bothering anyone, but all the police want to do is find out a way to bother and charge him with a crime.

That's the problem and the issue here. One of the first things the officer said was: is this going on youtube in a few minutes. and the guy replied, depends how this goes. There was no reason for 78 police to show up for a guy taking pictures.

Photographers are being harassed consitently and police are trying to push the laws to make it a crime, that way police can abuse their authority further and get away with crimes and trample your Constitutional rights because they don't serve the public, they serve the state which wants to control and extort you.

The mere fact that police hate photographers and videographers so much tells you something right there.

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not sure this goes here:

Student abandoned in DEA cell for 4 days to get $4.1 million settlement from U.S. - NY Daily News
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The police ask for an ID and the idiot answers, "Am I being detained?" It's pretty clear to everyone at that moment that the only reason he was there was to agitate the police to get a cute video to share with his peeps on youtube.

The police checked out a flashlight that was attached to his belt like a knife...not like they striped his clothes off and molested him.
I've got to agree with Braineack here, in broad strokes. Even if the guy was there to agitate - so long as he is doing nothing illegal - the police should not get to violate his constitutional rights just because they find him annoying.
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same thing, in front of my favorite burger joint:


the space right next door to these guards is a very busy bar/grill. Yes, they do stand outside with mp5s like that. I bet a regular citizen would get harassed walking around Arlington open carrying like that...(which again is not illegal or suspicious). ((looking suspicious is not a crime, nor cause))


And here; I lived on the same block as this courthouse (apt complex can be seen in vid), I've parked in that same parking lot hundreds of times; side note: I've beaten many traffic/parking "bills" here as well as getting my marriage license there:




more of the same in arlington:




these are HIGHLY public areas that happen to have federal buildings occupying the same space. There's a better video where two guys confronting a photographer in plain clothes who wouldn't identify themselves. They eventually chased/followed the photographer for blocks who called the POLICE because he was confused/scared.



I've seen at least a handful of people/tourist/weirdos taking pictures of my building in the last few weeks, I'm surprised the police haven't shot their dogs yet.

meanwhile, PGC residents are crossing state lines, stealing cars/robbing people and going back across the river to Murderland.

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I've got to agree with Braineack here, in broad strokes. Even if the guy was there to agitate - so long as he is doing nothing illegal - the police should not get to violate his constitutional rights just because they find him annoying.
plus they didn't detain him, yet they still didn't let him leave; they had to come up with a reason to make contact/detain/arrest, after he self-incriminates of course.
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I put myself in the officers shoes. If someone randomly shows up to my police station and begins randomly videotaping and photographing the building and refuses to identify themselves/get's defensive immediately, it's suspicious. Say the next week, there truly is a prison break. Are you going to be the one to tell the police chief, "Oh yeah, some random, unidentified guy came by last week and I let him take pictures of the facility. Who was he? Meh, I don't know...he seemed harmless at the time."

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witnesses say the kid was just walking, then tackled. kid pee'd himself during excessive force...
I saw something similar happen on a college campus a few years ago. A student was tee-peeing a sorority house with about 20 other people. A cop car pulled up with no lights on, and the officer in the passenger seat tackled the closest person, from behind, by wrapping his elbow around the back of the kids neck and slamming him into the ground. Everyone's immediate reaction was, "What the **** just happened?!" The officer claimed he was trying to run away and then continued to resist on the ground. In reality, the kid was half drunk (of age) and had no idea what had just happened. The crowd gathered, another cop car showed up, and in the end, the officers simply uncuffed him, gave no further explanations and everyone went on their ways. Fucked up.

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plus they didn't detain him, yet they still didn't let him leave; they had to come up with a reason to make contact/detain/arrest, after he self-incriminates of course.
Is that not by definition detaining someone.
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detained

past participle, past tense of de·tain (Verb)

1. Keep (someone) in official custody, typically for questioning about a crime or in politically sensitive situations.
2. Keep (someone) from proceeding; hold back.


Wikipedia: Detention is the process when a state, government or citizen lawfully holds a person by removing their freedom of liberty at that time.

Are you suggesting you can be detained but at the same time allowed to leave?

If you are not free to go, or have the liberty to go, then you are detained. You don't have to talk to cops, and the cops have no rights to talk to you.


Are you suggesting you can be detained, but at the same time be free to walk away? or are you suggesting that to be detained means you need to be arrested or physically restrained? or just whatever strawman semantics you can come up with to distract from the issue?
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Are you suggesting you can be detained but at the same time allowed to leave?

If you are not free to go, or have the liberty to go, then you are detained. You don't have to talk to cops, and the cops have no rights to talk to you.


Are you suggesting you can be detained, but at the same time be free to walk away?
I was not suggesting that. I was pointing out that what you said made no sense. You said he wasn't being detained but he wasn't allowed to leave. If he is not allowed to leave then he was being detained.
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okay, yeah, sorry.

well he asked the cop if he was being detained, the cop said no, and he replied: then I'm just going to go ahead and leave. the cop then replied: no, but I'm going to ask you hang to out here with us. then the guy say: so I'm being detained. finally the answer was yes. 2:10

they get to have it both ways because they are allowed to carry guns, intimidate, and legally shoot your dog and you if they so please. after they take your camera and turn it off or erase the memory card and then beat the **** out of you of course.
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SWAT team throws flashbangs, raids wrong home due to open WiFi network | Ars Technica

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The long-standing, heavily documented militarization of even small-town American police forces was always going to create problems when it met anonymous Internet threats. And so it has, again—this time in Evansville, Indiana, where officers acted on some Topix postings threatening violence against local police. They then sent an entire SWAT unit to execute a search warrant on a local house, one in which the front door was open and an 18-year old woman sat inside watching TV.
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Not that all Evansville residents think the SWAT raid was in any way improper. Writing on the same Topix message boards where the initial threats emanated, one resident responded to critics: "They had a warrant. Sometimes warrants turn up nothing. Her home was repaired. On with your life now crusader!!! Lol"

"Noodle heads come on here thinking they are just big bad asses, threatening cops and their families," wrote another, "then the cops come back and bitch slap them with SWAT teams and flash bang grenades. Awesome. Teach these fools a lesson and make examples out of them."
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Meh. I feel that it is equally wrong for a police officer to incriminate an civilian who has done nothing wrong as it is for a civilian to videotape and incriminate a police officer. I feel that the rebuttle to this would be that the police officer should know the law better than the civilian, and that attempting to expose and record police violations of the law draws awareness to their human nature and deficiency in training/knowledge.
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