To me its pretty clear that this it was shot down by Russians - earlier today the 'self defense' forces claimed to
- have captured an Buk missile system from the Ukranians
- have shot down a Ukranian AN-24 cargo plane
then an hour later news surface that Malasya flight has gone missing, and all of a sudden those posts are promptly deleted. so far, no wreckage of AN-24 has been found.
But what makes me ******* FURIOUS are the hundreds and thousands Russian comments and posts that claim this is Ukraine provocaiton, that US was somehow involved, that the self-defense forces didn't do it, etc. Putin have said ****-all so far.
T_T Sadly, it looks like this crash is no coincidence. I hate to see bystanders bear the brunt of something they don't deserve. Oh humans, what will you do next? I guess we'll find out soon enough when this escalates.
It was just an overflight too -- flight was completely unrelated to Ukraine or Russia. Airliner was cruising in the 30s when the missile hit. I've overflown that part of the world many times in airliners. When your number's up . . . .
Malaysian Airlines just isn't having any luck whatsoever.
This thing stinks from every side. No way it didn't get shot down, and my money's on either the Russians outright or the Separatists. My question is, why did Kiev clear a civilian plane to go through hostile airspace? Hope? Happy thoughts?
The airlines have overflight agreements with all of those governments. That's part of establishing the route. They were flying the most fuel efficient path between Amsterdam and Kuala Lumpur. It's normal ops. I don't think anyone expected some crazies to be lobbing SAMs. I can't imagine that the SAM would have come from an armed force controlled by a legitimate government that had granted overflight rights and had positive identification of the airliner.
That said, I can't remember any country, other than the Soviet Union, that ever shot down an unarmed airliner filled with unlucky civilians. Anyone remember Korean Air Lines?