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Old 04-27-2016, 06:15 PM   #2901
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So my wife calls me and tells me that her bff's soon to be ex husband has threatened to take her cat to the pound to be put down. She doesnt live with him and cant have the cat where she is living. My wife wants to take the cat. 3 years old and female. How is this gonna work with our 3 boys?
Well, I think, it goes something like, one of the boys brings a shovel, and one brings a hacksaw, and one brings a big old american car with a huge trunk, and then you go and pick up the ex husband and take him for a nice ride out in the country side.

It's possible I watch too much Sopranos, and Goodfellas.
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So our white devil and ******* are both super curious about the kitty behind the door. Our fatty is straight scared. He hid under our sofa most of the afternoon. Kinda surprised as he is normally laid back.
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Well, I think, it goes something like, one of the boys brings a shovel, and one brings a hacksaw, and one brings a big old american car with a huge trunk, and then you go and pick up the ex husband and take him for a nice ride out in the country side.

It's possible I watch too much Sopranos, and Goodfellas.
Yeah. He is some kind of dick. Good news is kitty was removed before he followed through with his threat. Kitty is on her way to a new home. The new kitty parent recently lost her long term cat. We know she will make a good home for her. Our job is nearly done.
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:41 PM   #2904
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Old 04-28-2016, 01:00 AM   #2905
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What do you guys know about Bengal cats?
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:03 AM   #2906
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What do you guys know about Bengal cats?
they are expensive and full of energy.
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So I spent about an hour sitting with the kittens last night and I'm starting to get worried about the little one again. The two larger of the kittens are at that stage where eyes are completely open and they are starting to develop real cat mannerisms and features. The little one is definitely behind on the physical development curve.

I can usually get Momma to chill via petting and scratches about the head and neck. Once she lies down and relaxes I can snag the little one for some private feeding time. It seems to feed for a minute or so then take a break for a minute or so. Eventually the bigger ones figure out what's going on trundle over. While the little one is taking a break, the bigger ones move in and push it out of the way, latch on, and go for broke. The poor little one does not have the strength to push its way back into the fray so it climbs around and cries. It's kinda heartbreaking.

I do not have a complete data set because I didn't weight everyone every day, but you can see the trend:


Part of my brain thinks nature work things out for itself, the other part of my brain is considering supplemental feeding because I'll hate myself if I do nothing and the little one does not make it.

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Old 04-28-2016, 03:40 PM   #2908
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I know that every Bengal or Abyssinian I've ever met has been a complete *******. It might be that the owners were not prepared for such high energy creatures and thus were not meeting the cats stimulation needs. At best they were flighty and aloof but at the worst it was more like "FEED ME BITCH! TOUCH ME AND I'LL MAKE YOU BLEED! I'M GONNA BREAK ALL YOUR ****, BUT LOOK HOW PRETTY I AM!" Every single one marked/scratched up everything/everyone in their path and seemed to revel in wanton destruction. None of them wanted anything to do with being snuggled or petted. Again, it may be a case of nurture vs nature but it pretty well turned me off from high end cats.
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Part of my brain thinks nature work things out for itself, the other part of my brain is considering supplemental feeding because I'll hate myself if I do nothing and the little one does not make it.

Thoughts? (other than 'you need a more consistent kitten datalogger')
I think part of your brain is probably right. Dem kitten's be dealing with this **** since way before your spreadsheet.
I'd just keep an eye out to make sure momma's not abandoning it. Then you'd have a problem.
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Thoughts? (other than 'you need a more consistent kitten datalogger')
What are the downsides to supplemental feeding other than requiring time and energy?

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What are the downsides to supplemental feeding other than requiring time and energy?

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i cant think of any...
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None, it already got the colostrum.
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I know that every Bengal or Abyssinian I've ever met has been a complete *******. It might be that the owners were not prepared for such high energy creatures and thus were not meeting the cats stimulation needs. At best they were flighty and aloof but at the worst it was more like "FEED ME BITCH! TOUCH ME AND I'LL MAKE YOU BLEED! I'M GONNA BREAK ALL YOUR ****, BUT LOOK HOW PRETTY I AM!" Every single one marked/scratched up everything/everyone in their path and seemed to revel in wanton destruction. None of them wanted anything to do with being snuggled or petted. Again, it may be a case of nurture vs nature but it pretty well turned me off from high end cats.
Good to know! I've read about the energy and usually having another to play with is "nearly" a requirement.
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(detailed chart of kitten development)
I have nothing to contribute. I just love the fact that you've gathered and presented this data in such a professional format.
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I think part of your brain is probably right. Dem kitten's be dealing with this **** since way before your spreadsheet.
I'd just keep an eye out to make sure momma's not abandoning it. Then you'd have a problem.
Unfortunately, one of the ways they dealt with it before the spreadsheet is that the weak kittens die. Darwinian, yes, but kittens are cute and worth saving.

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If you're willing to make the investment as far as time, why not? I can see this as only positive. Extra handling will mean kitten is more used to being held, therefore more comfortable around people, and more likely to become a real snuggler.

And I totally agree with EO2K as far as Bengals, but I've only known 2, both owned by enslaving the same couple. The couches were all shredded.
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Unfortunately, one of the ways they dealt with it before the spreadsheet is that the weak kittens die. Darwinian, yes, but kittens are cute and worth saving.

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Don't get me wrong! I don't want to see him lose a little one either, which was why I mentioned making sure momma didn't give up on it, but I guess I just have a natural disinclination to always think we can do better than nature. Though it could just me, I think there are quite possibly unseen aspects that may occur naturally which we don't/can't fully replicate, so to automatically intercede (unless it is outright critical) must not always be assumed the "best" approach.

On a somewhat related note, I have this ongoing debate with my son about whether or not there is any need for people to have vaginal births anymore. He thinks it's needlessly barbaric, whereas I think it is horribly arrogant, presumptuous, and shortsighted to think a C-section is automatically "better".
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Thanks fellas. I too figured "it can't hurt" going into this but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. I need to stop by the feed store tonight anyway so I'll check to see if they have kitten formula and, I dunno, bottles or pipettes or whatever. I'll keep up with the weights from here on out. When we start getting them going on solid foods I can mix the formula up with the solids to keep them fat and happy so its not like it'll go to waste. I think KMR comes in a powder and in liquid form.

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I figured you guys would enjoy that, seeing as how much we all like working with real data


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