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Old 01-24-2012, 12:38 AM   #7501
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I enjoy playing engineer and demo, not great at them, but im getting better.
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^This is something I could end up doing under the Combat Support MOS.
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They killed Gordon Freeman!!!!


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Old 01-24-2012, 01:42 AM   #7505
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Just a little excessive I think. 10 shots point blank? Someone needs to get fired.
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Old 01-24-2012, 02:03 AM   #7506
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A little excessive yes, but so what. Dumb bastard should know better than to do whatever brought the cops out in the first place (robbery?) and then to turn and approach an officer with a crow bar raised like he was ready to swing. One less piece of ---- to worry about walking the streets.
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Old 01-24-2012, 02:08 AM   #7507
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He was smashing the windows of Carls Junior. Cops has tasers and a dog but shot him 10 times instead, he died immediately.

The guy could have been mentally ill, but I guess when they dont know cameras are on them its alright to be judge, jury and executioner of an annoying brown person.
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Old 01-24-2012, 02:28 AM   #7508
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If a schizophrenic man was trying to kill you, would not not fight back b/c he's mentally ill?

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Just a little excessive I think. 10 shots point blank? Someone needs to get fired.
What, did they kill him twice or something? I've never understood why people give a flying f*ck about how many times the cops shoot some dirtbag. How many times do you think you would have ---- him? It's not like the cops where thinking "yeah, I'll shoot him 5 times and you shoot him 5 times just to remove whats left of his face, that'll be funny". No, they just acted, like you or I would if a deer jumped into our lane. Nobody needs to be fired.
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The guy was standing ------- 15 feet away from him not moving when they decided to unload on him.
This isnt war. The guy obviosuly needed to be stopped but he had done nothing other than damage carls jr. property.

You really mean to say that if you so much as threaten a police officer you deserve to die? Are you ------- kidding me?

Last time I was down in key west there was a Navy guy who got shitfaced drunk and started smashing the windows at a scooter rental shop.
Thats a man who was actively serving in the US armed forces, how do you think the media would react if he had been shot and killed on the spot? what if the police had non-lethal tasers and a police dog but instead decided to shoot the guy in the face?

Thats exactly what happened, except because its some unidentified mexican nobody gives a ----. Just another "********" off the streets right? Hes not even really a person because hes from a smelly third world country. He deserved to die because he bowed up at a inbred highschool educated police officer who is holding his gun sideways like a ------- thug.

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What, did they kill him twice or something? I've never understood why people give a flying f*ck about how many times the cops shoot some dirtbag. How many times do you think you would have ---- him? It's not like the cops where thinking "yeah, I'll shoot him 5 times and you shoot him 5 times just to remove whats left of his face, that'll be funny". No, they just acted, like you or I would if a deer jumped into our lane. Nobody needs to be fired.
there have been a few, if not many cases where officers have unloaded rounds upon rounds on innocent men (sean bell and amadou diallo) for some "recent events...while i understand you point, there's no reason to shoot someone more than two-three times, let alone 41-50+

that video is good for lots of reasons. a lot of people have been trying to claim "police brutality" based on youtube/metacafe/googlevideo/etc... videos for a while and some rightfully so. i am normally one who feels disgusted when watching "police brutality" videos, but i don't necessarily disagree with what happened in the video.

tazer did nothing
instead of shooting, the officer could have released the k-9, sure. but in the heat of the moment, i think it's fair to justify the officer's actions.
this isn't as cut and dry as some of the other "police brutality" videos out there.
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a little excessive yes, but so what. Dumb bastard should know better than to do whatever brought the cops out in the first place (robbery?) and then to turn and approach an officer with a crow bar raised like he was ready to swing. One less piece of ---- to worry about walking the streets.
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tazer did nothing.
That right there is why he got shot multiple times. It wasn't "the tazer had little effect". It had NO effect indicating some powerfull drugs were in his system and with that pick ax looking thing he had he could have easily killed one or two cops before being subdued. I think the cops acted by the book.
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Personally, I think cops should go back to carrying batons. Killing this moron was not justice served.
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A little excessive yes, but so what. Dumb bastard should know better than to do whatever brought the cops out in the first place (robbery?) and then to turn and approach an officer with a crow bar raised like he was ready to swing. One less piece of ---- to worry about walking the streets.
Agreed. You wanna not get shot? Stop acting like a dickwad smashing other peoples stuff while high, and then threatening police officers with deadly force.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:12 AM   #7515
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Personally, I think cops should go back to carrying batons. Killing this moron was not justice served.
I like that idea, but cops progressed from batons to firearms when criminals did. I know that in this case the crim didn't have a gun, but the precedent for cops carrying is there and you get situations where this kind of thing happens. The way I look at it is like this: Crim with ax has a huge advantage over Cop A (who didn't have gun drawn), so to even things up Cop B pulls gun which is huge advantage over Crim but why should we give a criminal a fair chance to take anyone's life?

EDIT: I agree its not fair or just, but I think it comes down to a him or me situation and you gotta pick the lesser of evils.
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15 feet is nothing, basically. It's unfortunate if he was mentally ill, but these things happen.
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If a schizophrenic man was trying to kill you, would not not fight back b/c he's mentally ill?



What, did they kill him twice or something? I've never understood why people give a flying f*ck about how many times the cops shoot some dirtbag. How many times do you think you would have ---- him? It's not like the cops where thinking "yeah, I'll shoot him 5 times and you shoot him 5 times just to remove whats left of his face, that'll be funny". No, they just acted, like you or I would if a deer jumped into our lane. Nobody needs to be fired.
not many years ago, I probably would have agreed with you, for alot of reasons. But the key one I'd like to point out, this aint the 50's anymore. Back then a gun shot had a very good chance of killing you, but medical science has advanced to the point where one or even two gunshots is very survivable.

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That right there is why he got shot multiple times. It wasn't "the tazer had little effect". It had NO effect indicating some powerfull drugs were in his system and with that pick ax looking thing he had he could have easily killed one or two cops before being subdued. I think the cops acted by the book.
I dont think they tasered him, that was pepper spray. Also, the drug thing is a myth: quote from the manfactures website. http://www.protectionnation.com/stun...?%3C/strong%3E

"That’s why TASER® devices are so effective, despite the fact that they operate on just 50,000 volts (which is a lot less than most stun guns’ volts). TASER® weapons will help you dominate any attacker, including drug addicts"

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Personally, I think cops should go back to carrying batons. Killing this moron was not justice served.
There is clearly some disconnect with what reasonable force should mean. Action like this makes the Rodeny king thing look like a school yard scruffle, that guy is DEAD. Why are we so numb to it now?
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but why should we give a criminal a fair chance to take anyone's life?
He didn't have a chance to take anyone's life...he made a gesture and was killed.

At least they could have just shot him with an arrow to the knee.
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He didn't have a chance to take anyone's life...he made a gesture and was killed.
Maybe he was an illegal immigrant trying to indicate that he was here to play baseball.
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