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Old 02-05-2013, 12:12 AM   #3461
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^The hysteria is beginning to subside. As expected, the avalanche outpouring of "**** you Feinstein" was enough to let most politicians know that the country doesn't want that ****.

Over the past few days, I've even seen it among some of my friends who have become exceedingly more educated on gun stuff and are starting to come around to the idea that the "gun issue" we face is just another Republican vs. Democrat issue, and that if you'd just listen, the pro-gun people have some really good ideas, and the anti-gun people speak/talk/act just like any other sort of fringe-wacko group.

A buddy of mine sought me out the other day in the hangar and asked me what I thought when I heard Biden say a double-barrel shotgun was the best self-defense gun. We talked for about 10 minutes, and all he could say was that Biden sounded like an complete idiot, and the shotgun comment he made really hit home how out of touch the anti's must be if one of their main guys says something that stupid.

Just got an email from BOTACH saying my PMAG's are still backordered with no delivery date. Still pretty confident my Brownells stuff will be here in a week or two.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:38 AM   #3462
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My trigger parts and gas tube came in the mail today, so naturally I neglected all obligations and responsibilities to do the conversion

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From the shoulder, that's pretty good... from a rest, I'd recommend having somebody critique your body position, trigger control, and breathing. A good shooter should be able to ping a 12x12 gong at 100yds all day long with just about any rifle.

I've had a very small amount of actual "training" for shooting rifles... that is to say, once a year, I hang out with some guys who warm up at 1000yds. This crew has taught me a lot, and every year I get better and better with my shooting. This past year, I shot a 3-shot 7" group at 1000yds with a 7mm WSM. My buddy followed up my shooting with a 4" group, same gun, same winds, same ammo... he's just that much better on the gun.

Point is, somebody who really "knows" what they're doing will take apart every little detail of your technique after watching you take just a few shots. Some guys wonder for years why their $3k guns and $2k scopes only shoot MOA at 500yds and blame the reloads when they can't hit a barn at 1000yds... cause they never learned how to shoot.
Standing from the shoulder.

Although, over the past month of watching the vast knowledge of our political leaders, I have learned that I am doing it wrong. The pistol grip is there so I can hold it down by my side to inflict maximum damage.

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Old 02-05-2013, 11:01 AM   #3464
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...cause they never learned how to shoot.
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The pistol grip is there so I can hold it down by my side to inflict maximum damage.

Hell yeah, accuracy by volume. Learned that playing paintball.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:01 PM   #3465
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Just got an email from BOTACH saying my PMAG's are still backordered with no delivery date. Still pretty confident my Brownells stuff will be here in a week or two.

I'm still waiting for my Brownells order to ship..... *fingers crossed*
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Yay! The stock I've been waiting on is finally available!

B5 Systems Bravo Milspec Stock
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Okay, going off the top of my head here. My recommendations will be based on my own research for my AR build. My goal was to find that price/quality sweet spot, not to source the very best uber-commando SEAL Team 6 unobtainium parts.
Thanks for the spoon-feeding.

Ordered:
  • MIAD pistol grip
  • mid-length MOE handguard
  • BCM charging handle
  • MBUS flip sights

Still need the lower parts kit, BCG, barrel and stock. I like the looks and price of the Bravo company SOPMOD but the black is out of stock. I may end up paying more for a Magpul setup just because they are easier to lay hands on (and ship with Amazon Prime!).
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Yeah, the B5 SOPMOD's are hard to find. I had notifications set up on 3 different websites and finally managed to snag a SOPMOD Bravo in FDE yesterday.

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If you wanted the regular Enhanced SOPMOD, BCM has it in stock. The Enhanced SOPMOD is a bit heavier and has two storage tubes.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/B5-En...ced-sopmod.htm
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I did leave out every bit of pertinent information possible didn't I...

Iron sights, 100 yards, 12"x12" target hit 6-7 of 20 fired.
To illustrate the value of instruction, this is my first time ever shooting a a gun.

100 Yrds, Iron sights, not wearing my glasses. My friend who was instructing me was a competitive shooter for many years. His help was invaluable.



Shooting in this position.



I know it's not that good, but I was pretty happy with it.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:51 PM   #3471
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To illustrate the value of instruction, this is my first time ever shooting a a gun...
I know it's not that good, but I was pretty happy with it.
3" group @100yds on iron sites... son, it doesn't get much better than that. A lot of people would have trouble doing that with a scoped rifle off a rest. Just off the cuff, I'd say you were a natural.
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Yeah, the B5 SOPMOD's are hard to find. I had notifications set up on 3 different websites and finally managed to snag a SOPMOD Bravo in FDE yesterday.

EDIT:

If you wanted the regular Enhanced SOPMOD, BCM has it in stock. The Enhanced SOPMOD is a bit heavier and has two storage tubes.

B5 Enhanced SOPMOD
I'll check out the price differential when I get home and can open firearms-related links. I'm already having serious buyers remorse on the impulse buys of the last few components. I can easily see this build running up to about $500 - $600 without optics or magazines or ammo, not counting the money in the receivers. I don't think I'm going to end up getting enough utility/enjoyment out of it to justify the cost or time to learn to assemble it all.

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I know it's not that good, but I was pretty happy with it.
Agreed with Sam; that looks pretty darn solid given the parameters.
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I'll check out the price differential when I get home and can open firearms-related links. I'm already having serious buyers remorse on the impulse buys of the last few components. I can easily see this build running up to about $500 - $600 without optics or magazines or ammo, not counting the money in the receivers. I don't think I'm going to end up getting enough utility/enjoyment out of it to justify the cost or time to learn to assemble it all.
If you build it and decide it's not worth keeping, then sell it for $1400.

Just don't wait too long.
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I know it's not that good, but I was pretty happy with it.
Dont be so modest, thats pretty damn good. I re-qualify with security forces and random army peeps... you definitely shoot better than some that are required to shoot pretty damn well.
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Thanks Sam and Penguin.

That was with a borrowed gun, I just put together my own. I hope it wasn't beginners luck. Going shooting on monday, we'll see.
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Anyone else see the Obama Skeet Shooting Figurine?

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Anyone else see the Obama Skeet Shooting Figurine?

Somthin like that

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I re-qualify with security forces and random army peeps... you definitely shoot better than some that are required to shoot pretty damn well.
I was SF and did CATM for a bit. A lot of SF is horrible, but never go fire with base populous. You'll pee a little at best. I'm by far no expert/master. However, the guys from services, hospital, and etc hit the barricades in front of them. Plus some really dangerous stuff.
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:18 AM   #3479
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Found an Armslist seller selling .22 for barely over retail (basically at retail) for almost 5k of CCI. Bought it and added it to the dwindling stocks.

Also trying to buy another Dillon 650 that popped up locally. Hopefully the seller responds to me.
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Hurm, local shop has stripped lowers for 190 in stock.... pickup spares?
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