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Old 09-01-2015, 05:15 PM   #5021
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Did you guys know that the owner of FourSevens is a miata guy?
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Group buy for Miata bros? How many Preons do we need to order to get them in MT pink?

I've been looking for a good light. I had my heart set on a Fenix but they discontinued the model I liked.
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Old 09-01-2015, 05:49 PM   #5023
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Group buy for Miata bros? How many Preons do we need to order to get them in MT pink?
Is this close enough?



Still on clearance
Seriously, buy one now.
I have had it turn on in my pocket once, but I caught it before the battery got completely drained.
I wear this thing clipped in my front pocket 24/7.
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Old 09-01-2015, 06:01 PM   #5024
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Oo! The burnt orange is also overstocked and would match my car. Kinda.

Good find, thanks for the link



I've had this little guy for probably a couple years now? The magnet on the back is CLUTCH. http://www.foursevens.com/products/A0-HA (They renamed it from Preon P0 to Atom A0) It's just enough light where you need it, when you need it. Small enough to go anywhere. Don't get me wrong, its not going to change your life at 25 lumens, but when you need it you are glad its there. Great for poking around in wiring closets and server racks and things.
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RMC... got to shoot my bargain $79 PSA barrel the other day.
Thanks for the report on the cheap barrel. I still have a PSA rifle with a trashed barrel that needs rebuilt. I was at PSA the other day but failed to check on the 300 barrels. Still not sure if that is where I am heading with that rifle.


I went to the range today and tried out my new gallery 7.62x54r loads. It was my first time shooting the light loads and I pulled my DIY Mosin scout rifle for the trip the the range. I figured shooting a scoped rifle was the way to go. I loaded my cast boolits with 5, 6, 7 and 8 grains of W231. It was pretty interesting taking that boomstick / flamethrower rifle and shooting something that felt like a 9mm Luger out of it. How was the accuracy? Horrible. I don't know if it was the loads or the rifle. The rounds are about .500" shorter OAL then a standard Mosin round so the jump to the rifling probably took its toll. I had a hard time getting it on paper (8.5x11") so I kept moving the target closer and closer. Once I found the paper I was getting 3" groups at 15 yards. I only took 40 rounds with me (10 of each load) so there wasn't much time to dial anything in. The 6 gr charges seemed like they worked the best. I've rarely shot that rifle so I will take something that has been fully tested next time (maybe the PU sniper). I'm cleaning the brass now and will load 5, 5.5 and 6 grain for my next trip.

I also took the AR with bipod / sandbag and shot 21.3, 21.7, 22.2 and 23.6 grain H335 loads. The 22.2 has been shaping up as my load of choice but today the 23.6 performed the best @ 5/8" groups (5 rounds). Not sure why I am still having problems finding a good load. The 23.6 grain loads were just some "junk" that I decided to take while I tested the other three loads to see if I could fine tune. Not that I was displeased with the 5/8" but it confuses me that my goto round was not the best.






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I also took the AR with bipod / sandbag and shot 21.3, 21.7, 22.2 and 23.6 grain H335 loads. The 22.2 has been shaping up as my load of choice but today the 23.6 performed the best @ 5/8" groups (5 rounds). Not sure why I am still having problems finding a good load. The 23.6 grain loads were just some "junk" that I decided to take while I tested the other three loads to see if I could fine tune. Not that I was displeased with the 5/8" but it confuses me that my goto round was not the best.
Those are some big steps in your ladder... 5rd groups at .2gr increments is the usual recommendation. For plinking loads, there's still plenty of tweaking to do after you find a good powder. COAL is just as important as finding a bullet your gun likes. 55gr Hornady FMJ's are the cheap ticket right now and perform well, but another manufacturers 55gr FMJ might work a bit better. Are you crimping? Stop crimping and see what happens?

I'm not sure if you have a chamber gauge, but you can check your need for shoulder bump using a skinny pistol round. This is a poor mans way to clean up your headspace. I think for .223, you can use piece of .32 pistol brass or similar. Grab about 10 pieces of brass that have been fired in your gun but that you haven't sized yet. Measure the COAL with the piece of pistol brass over the mouth of your brass like below. Whatever pistol brass you use, you want it to sit about halfway down the shoulder. The lengths should all be within .002'ish or even less. Adjust your full-length sizing die so that the average brass is .003-.004 shorter after sizing. This is "shoulder bump" to ensure proper headspace.
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Old 09-10-2015, 10:43 PM   #5027
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Ready for this... BAZINGA! I'm definitely doing something wrong, just gotta figure out what. It's freaking killing me that it shoots this poor. Lots of shiz to work through. At least it's getting better. My first range trip with the 6.8 was so abysmal I'm not gonna post up.

Here are the better groups from the second trip, along with primer pics and velocities.




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Old 09-10-2015, 10:50 PM   #5028
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Rats, how did this thread drop off my active list...
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I took some of the better groups and made up a third batch of ammo. I tried to pick the best group for each bullet/powder combo over my previous trips. I'm working with 2 bullets and 4 powders, so that's 8 different groups.

7/8 are accurate enough for me to hunt deer out to 300yds... which is the outer limit of what I feel comfortable shooting this caliber at. A couple just don't have the velocity that I'd feel good out past 200yds, but the accuracy is there.

I really need to try a few more bullets.

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This thread fell off the front page... unacceptable.

So, I bought another flashlight. No, I'm not a full-blown torch nerd, but I like cool toys, and this one fits the pricepoint.

The guys at BudgetLightForum.com spec'd out a light that gets 1400-1500lm from a single 18650. I've already got a few of those batteries and a charger, so for $25 it was easy call. The thing is exactly the size of a standard EXPO dry-erase marker... and an easy 1400lm!



This is the thread with a link to order and the coupon code to get it for $25 shipped... only one place to buy these, Banggood... which is like DealExtreme or Alibaba or any other "the Amazon of China" sites.
Code now public! BLF A6 FET+7135 Light. Short 18350 tubes and Unanodized Lights Available | BudgetLightForum.com

A quality 18650 (Panasonic, LG, Samsung, Sony) will run you $5-$8 and they're available from US sources on Amazon... plus any NiteCore charger from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...ps%2Ck%3A18650
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...tecore+charger

Do yourself a favor and don't buy batteries that need to ship from China... you know on Amazon if they are shipping direct from a CONUS store if directly under the price it tells you a "get it by XX date" and the date is within a day or two. Even legit sellers can't check all their products, and if they're coming directly from China, the chances increase that they'll just be old/pulled re-wrapped laptop batteries... ie, fakes.
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This thread fell off the front page... unacceptable.
Went shooting this morning. Got eaten alive by mosquitoes. Took the mosin scout with gallery loads and the AR. The Mosin loads used cast boolits without my normal powdercoating. 5 rounds at 10 yards gave me about 3" groups. I was using 5, 5.6, and 6.0 grains of W231. I need to shoot more of the store bought ammo so I have some additional brass for handloads/tuning. Way too hard to do this when you only shoot a total of 15 rounds. I was going to take the PU Sniper but wanted to give the scout rifle a second chance. It is still lots of fun shooting the Mosin in mouse fart mode.

I shot the AR with the same wide rung ladder of rounds that I used the last time. When I got home I just took a shower and went to bed (working nights right now) so I didn't really get to crunch the data but there was not really any fantastic groupings for the day. Disappointment...
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Thanks for the link. Ordered a 3D colored led (hopefully that is neutral).

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This thread fell off the front page... unacceptable.

So, I bought another flashlight. No, I'm not a full-blown torch nerd, but I like cool toys, and this one fits the pricepoint.

The guys at BudgetLightForum.com spec'd out a light that gets 1400-1500lm from a single 18650. I've already got a few of those batteries and a charger, so for $25 it was easy call. The thing is exactly the size of a standard EXPO dry-erase marker... and an easy 1400lm!



This is the thread with a link to order and the coupon code to get it for $25 shipped... only one place to buy these, Banggood... which is like DealExtreme or Alibaba or any other "the Amazon of China" sites.
Code now public! BLF A6 FET+7135 Light. Short 18350 tubes and Unanodized Lights Available | BudgetLightForum.com

A quality 18650 (Panasonic, LG, Samsung, Sony) will run you $5-$8 and they're available from US sources on Amazon... plus any NiteCore charger from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...ps%2Ck%3A18650
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...tecore+charger

Do yourself a favor and don't buy batteries that need to ship from China... you know on Amazon if they are shipping direct from a CONUS store if directly under the price it tells you a "get it by XX date" and the date is within a day or two. Even legit sellers can't check all their products, and if they're coming directly from China, the chances increase that they'll just be old/pulled re-wrapped laptop batteries... ie, fakes.
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Dammit, trying not to spend any money. I don't have any 18650 batteries or chargers so I'm convincing myself that it's too much to spend just to get a cheapo light.
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Those amazon links are pretty cheap for 18650/charger. That cheapo light is packed with features. You know you want.

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Dammit, trying not to spend any money. I don't have any 18650 batteries or chargers so I'm convincing myself that it's too much to spend just to get a cheapo light.
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Old 09-28-2015, 11:48 AM   #5035
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I picked up a Gen 4 G20 recently, decided my Smith 610 was too much weight for too few rounds. Looking to get a Lone Wolf barrel (supported chamber) for my reloads which are stout. Have to decide as they make a 4.6", 5.15" & a 6.02". Decisions decisions... Purpose is for carry in the woods. Don't want it too long where it could hang up on the draw.
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I picked up a Gen 4 G20 recently, decided my Smith 610 was too much weight for too few rounds. Looking to get a Lone Wolf barrel (supported chamber) for my reloads which are stout. Have to decide as they make a 4.6", 5.15" & a 6.02". Decisions decisions... Purpose is for carry in the woods. Don't want it too long where it could hang up on the draw.
For defense against animals, a revolver is the way to go. In the discussions I've read, you'll likely only have one hand free because other one will be in the animals mouth or otherwise fending it off... this means no ability to clear a malfunction, which has resulted in people using their pistol as a club.
10mm Auto clearly has more power than say, 9mm Luger, but the effective stopping power against animals doesn't translate the same way it does on humans. Shot placement with animals is infinitely more critical than people, which is why many schools teach head-shots for self-defense against animals. Yup... tough job against a moving target, but not when he's got your off-arm in his mouth. Another reason that guide often choose a central chest-rig set up to be accessible by both hands.

If you have time to stand back and aim, anything 9mm and above will reliably penetrate the skulls of just about anything in the lower-48 with the exception of moose and some of the larger brown bears... well, maybe not a buffalo, but if one of those sneaks up on you. I'm not advocating 9mm for woods defense, but I would take a Smith 929 8-shot with Buffalo Bore +P+ over a G19 with Gold Dots.

Anyways, I'd examine the situation you're trying to prepare for, and weigh the advantage of the absolute reliability of your 610 vs. the extra capacity of the G20. Oh, and don't forget the laser.
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PSA 16" Mid-length Stainless 1/7 Freedom Upper - Without BCG or Charging Handle - 482726

Anyone have any experience with this upper?
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I do not, but my $79 PSA barrel on a beater upper shoots 1.5" groups with 55gr handloads off a rest. The Freedom line is there for PSA to fill a niche, I doubt there's any difference in quality from the rest of their standard line. You see a jump in "quality" with their premium line... FN barrels and visibly better coatings on all parts.
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For those of you needing a **** .22lr, the Savage MKii series is generally considered the best out-of-the-box .22lr bolt-action for the money. Truly to get better accuracy, you need to step up to a CZ455 for just under double the money... and unless you're shooting absurdly expensive match ammo, you'll never see the difference. For us "bulk pack" guys, one of the MKii's is the way to go.

Several of us here have the FVSR model, which comes with a scope rail and threaded barrel. There's no advantage to accuracy, but it looks awesome and gives you an excuse to buy a suppressor.

I got an email today that Wideners is having a 10% sale on all Savage rifles right now, which gets the FVSR down to $213 SHIPPED. The email indicates that the 10% discount will not appear during checkout or in the order, but will be applied when they process it. Plus, there is a $25 factory rebate from Savage on all the MKii rifles... $188 is a great deal for this gun.

There are some other models that you might like better if you don't need the fancy rail and threading... you can get a straight F model (iron sights, but drilled and tapped) for around $130 after the rebate, which might be the best gun deal currently in existence.

Anyways, take a look.
All Savage's:
https://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=700|1484|1485
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I do not, but my $79 PSA barrel on a beater upper shoots 1.5" groups with 55gr handloads off a rest. The Freedom line is there for PSA to fill a niche, I doubt there's any difference in quality from the rest of their standard line. You see a jump in "quality" with their premium line... FN barrels and visibly better coatings on all parts.
I wonder how the similar priced MSF 223 wylde upper I picked up will shoot. Ended up being $350 with lower build kit, bcg, and free float quad rail. I'll find out as soon as my vice gets here so I can cut my lower.
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