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Old 04-06-2020, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by samnavy
OK, I'll wade in...

You live in a very difficult state to be a firearms owner... Maryland sucks.

HANDGUNS:
MD has a registration requirement for handguns... permitting, fingerprints, etc... So if these are handguns, I hope they're registered with the state... ie, you can prove you are the legal owner in compliance with state law.
MD also has an "approved handgun roster"... so if your gun isn't registered with the state, and isn't on this list, you might be a felon... https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...gunRoster.aspx

SHOTGUNS/RIFLED:
As of last week, there was a bill on Governor Hogans desk making face-to-face (FTF) sales of longguns illegal. So, yes, until signed, or whenever it goes into effect, it is perfectly legal to arrange to sell a shotgun or rifle in your driveway (or Home Depot parking lot, my preferred) to another Maryland resident. No permits, checks, or fingerprints required. When/if the law does get signed, you will only need to do a background check with an FFL... ie, both you and the buyer walk into a gunstore (that you've previously visited and talked to the counter guy about it) and have the FFL run a background check on the new buyer for a fee ($30). Typically the FFL will take possession of the firearm and hold it behind the counter during the background check. If the new buyer passes, the FFL collects his fee, new buyer gives you the money and he walks out with his "new" gun. Easy-peasy! Some FFL's may handle it differently.

Or...
The easiest way for you to sell is to have a local shop consign them. You take in your guns, negotiate a minimum price, and the shop will call you when they sell to come pick up your money. Maybe little to zero paperwork on your end depending on the FFL.

So... what kinds of guns are we talking about here?
Thank you for the info, Maryland does suck. Everything is legal and the only guns I am interested in selling right now are long guns. So, it seems (at least for the moment) that I am in the clear for a place like armslist.


Originally Posted by sixshooter
^^Wow, Maryland must be a super-safe place to live.

/sarcasm
I feel safe every day. So safe that we are currently house hunting and will be getting out of the state. I just want to give coronavirus some time to play out so I can see how it is going to impact the housing market.
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Originally Posted by rmcelwee
If Grandpa was an avid gun collector and this was his pride and joy I would look at it differently. He wasn't and it isn't. It would be quite a stretch to call this a family heirloom.
Bro, you know me, guns are tools. I'd say that the only gun I'm partial to is my 10/22... because it's what I learned to shoot on and what my kids learned to shoot on and what their kids will learn to shoot on. Sentimental attachment a little, but it's the same feeling as the old 16oz Estwing I've been swinging since I was 12... it just works perfectly for the task.

Sell/consign/trade that gun... cash? If cash, buy some absurdly volatile stock for funzies and cash out at double in the fall. OR FOR ***** SAKE, spend it on a decent red-dot for your AR... spend more than $30 this time.


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So, it seems (at least for the moment) that I am in the clear for a place like armslist.
The Governor could sign the bill at any time. I did not look at the specific language... you should do so and learn what date the law will go into effect if he does sign it. I'd suspect either July 1st or Jan 1st... will let you know how much time you have to pay attention.

Looks like a decent site... they have a classifieds.
https://www.mdshooters.com/forum.php

Are you close enough to another state to advertise there? Perhaps drive into VA and strike a deal with a VA FFL to sell your gun if you find a VA buyer. You can't FTF out-of-state, but I believe that only the buyers state FFL has to perform a background check. Would increase your pool of potential buyers.
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Originally Posted by JD8
I feel safe every day. So safe that we are currently house hunting and will be getting out of the state. I just want to give coronavirus some time to play out so I can see how it is going to impact the housing market.
In the same boat... trying to move back to VA (who coincidentally just made all FTF sales illegal) in a month or two and covid is making everything very hard. I may leave the family here on Kauai for the summer... just me head to VA, get settled in the job and see what the housing market is like in the fall.
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It will, almost undoubtedly, be significantly cheaper to purchase real estate in a year as opposed to a couple three months. If I were you, I'd try and find somewhere really nice to rent for at least 9 or 12 months before considering a purchase, think about your relocation bonus as money down on the equity you lose out on by renting. If things keep going this way (my unprofessional opinion from working with the spouses of two PhD epidimiologists/public health professionals, untill we have an effective therapeutic, SK level surveillance testing, a vaccine, or all 3, we're going to be at ~80% economic productivity) you'll be able to snag a mortgage at an interest +/- a couple tenths from the rate of inflation.
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Old 04-06-2020, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by samnavy
The Governor could sign the bill at any time. I did not look at the specific language... you should do so and learn what date the law will go into effect if he does sign it. I'd suspect either July 1st or Jan 1st... will let you know how much time you have to pay attention.

Looks like a decent site... they have a classifieds.
https://www.mdshooters.com/forum.php

Are you close enough to another state to advertise there? Perhaps drive into VA and strike a deal with a VA FFL to sell your gun if you find a VA buyer. You can't FTF out-of-state, but I believe that only the buyers state FFL has to perform a background check. Would increase your pool of potential buyers.
Originally Posted by samnavy
In the same boat... trying to move back to VA (who coincidentally just made all FTF sales illegal) in a month or two and covid is making everything very hard. I may leave the family here on Kauai for the summer... just me head to VA, get settled in the job and see what the housing market is like in the fall.
I will make sure to check before selling anything. I don't want to sell anything, but if I can get good money then why not I suppose.

Where in VA are you looking? Also, I saw you posted earlier in one of these off topic threads about getting a new job, congratulations on that!


Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff
It will, almost undoubtedly, be significantly cheaper to purchase real estate in a year as opposed to a couple three months. If I were you, I'd try and find somewhere really nice to rent for at least 9 or 12 months before considering a purchase, think about your relocation bonus as money down on the equity you lose out on by renting. If things keep going this way (my unprofessional opinion from working with the spouses of two PhD epidimiologists/public health professionals, untill we have an effective therapeutic, SK level surveillance testing, a vaccine, or all 3, we're going to be at ~80% economic productivity) you'll be able to snag a mortgage at an interest +/- a couple tenths from the rate of inflation.
That is what I am thinking too. The problem is that we are currently in an apartment and I have no space for the miata. So it is sitting in my parents basement 2 hours away, no good. I am going to suck it up though and wait it out to see what happens. Based on what I have read/studied so far though, I agree with you.
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Originally Posted by JD8
Where in VA are you looking? Also, I saw you posted earlier in one of these off topic threads about getting a new job, congratulations on that!
Job will be near Tysons Corner... trying to narrow down by neighborhood based on high-school, commute, hospital (wife is an ER nurse), etc... We're not having any problem finding houses we like... they're all in the $800k+ range, which on paper is within budget, but still has me shitting my pants.
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Originally Posted by samnavy
Job will be near Tysons Corner... trying to narrow down by neighborhood based on high-school, commute, hospital (wife is an ER nurse), etc... We're not having any problem finding houses we like... they're all in the $800k+ range, which on paper is within budget, but still has me shitting my pants.
Good luck on the move & "retirement".
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Old 04-07-2020, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by samnavy
Job will be near Tysons Corner... trying to narrow down by neighborhood based on high-school, commute, hospital (wife is an ER nurse), etc... We're not having any problem finding houses we like... they're all in the $800k+ range, which on paper is within budget, but still has me shitting my pants.
Nice, I was at UMD about 5 years ago, so I am pretty familiar with that area. Yeah that is an intimidating number! What do you do?

My fiance is a nurse on a heart failure floor. Although her floor just got converted into coronavirus overflow, soon to be filled with patients i am sure.
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Originally Posted by JD8
Nice, I was at UMD about 5 years ago, so I am pretty familiar with that area. Yeah that is an intimidating number! What do you do?
My fiance is a nurse on a heart failure floor. Although her floor just got converted into coronavirus overflow, soon to be filled with patients i am sure.
Bro, I hope she's not one of those millennial nurses convinced she won't get it. The ER my wife is at hasn't had an active case yet, but they're wearing OR scrubs and leaving them in a bin outside the door when they leave. She's driving home, wiping down the car with sanitizer, stripping on the back porch and heading straight to the shower... clothes straight in the wash. If she has an exposure event, she's not even coming home... straight to one of the beach cottage rentals on base that have been set aside for on-base residents who work in any exposure-prone industry... 2 weeks quarantine. Double sucks that then I can't go to work because kids need their skoolin'. Yeah, she'll have her laptop, Kindle, Roku... probably knock out those last few online classes for her bachelors. But if she actually gets it...

Those are all first world problems for me though... totally manageable and I have the full support of the base and it's resources. I fully expect in a few weeks or a month, people around the country are going to start noticing strange smells coming from their neighbors places... going to start finding bodies of people who wouldn't/couldn't get to help.
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And now to get this thread back on track... lite/pencil barrels generally don't get down this low in price. Granted, DPMS is down in one of the lower tiers as far as their guns go, IMHO, but nothing wrong with their barrels. I already have a couple FAXON 16" mid-pencils sitting around, but for $60, can't really go wrong with these if you ever wanted to knock a half-pound off your gun.

https://gun.deals/product/ar15-barre...ur19-dpms-5999

CDNN also bought out somebody's Bushmaster overstock parts bin and has had a ton of misc stuff on sale... https://www.cdnnsports.com/gun-parts.html#brand=AR
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Originally Posted by samnavy
Bro, I hope she's not one of those millennial nurses convinced she won't get it. The ER my wife is at hasn't had an active case yet, but they're wearing OR scrubs and leaving them in a bin outside the door when they leave. She's driving home, wiping down the car with sanitizer, stripping on the back porch and heading straight to the shower... clothes straight in the wash. If she has an exposure event, she's not even coming home... straight to one of the beach cottage rentals on base that have been set aside for on-base residents who work in any exposure-prone industry... 2 weeks quarantine. Double sucks that then I can't go to work because kids need their skoolin'. Yeah, she'll have her laptop, Kindle, Roku... probably knock out those last few online classes for her bachelors. But if she actually gets it...

Those are all first world problems for me though... totally manageable and I have the full support of the base and it's resources. I fully expect in a few weeks or a month, people around the country are going to start noticing strange smells coming from their neighbors places... going to start finding bodies of people who wouldn't/couldn't get to help.
She's not, we have pretty much just accepted that we are going to get it. She says it takes them about 10 minutes just to get in/out of rooms because of all the gear they put on (plus N95 masks all day regardless of where she is), but given enough exposure I don't think it will make a difference. But maybe we will get lucky.

Good call with getting back on topic, that was a hell of a tangent in the gun thread!
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Are any of you aware of a 7.62 rifle suppressor that's 1.25" in diameter? Industry standard for .30 cal stuff seems to be 1.5", but I'm trying to build a setup with a specific handguard that for some bone-head reason will apparently only accommodate 1.25" diameter suppressors. Many thanks.
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Originally Posted by Dann0
Are any of you aware of a 7.62 rifle suppressor that's 1.25" in diameter? Industry standard for .30 cal stuff seems to be 1.5", but I'm trying to build a setup with a specific handguard that for some bone-head reason will apparently only accommodate 1.25" diameter suppressors. Many thanks.
Have you looked at the Midwest Industries handguards? MI suppressor handguards

Most handgun caliber suppressors are at least 1.375", so it's probably going to be tough to find a .30cal can that small. Even then, it would have to be pretty long to have enough volume to be effective.
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Am can shopping right now as it happens.

You've got an AR10 in .308 and want a suppressor that is 1.25" in OD? I knew I wasn't going to find any, but looked anyways. A shorter barrel is harsher on the can internals... I'm guessing 10" .308? You're in Form-1 territory there and it's gonna be a foot long at least with a bigger blast chamber... maybe 18" total length, which means custom titanium or it'll weigh 8lbs, which means likely a couple grand since each part will be a one-off. You've got a lathe, right? I'm just talking out my *** here, but I don't think there's an easy button for something that skinny.

It would be far easier to buy a new rail that accomodates 1.5" suppressors.

https://www.schuylerarmsco.com/may-s...-black-2765669

For the money you're gonna spend on a production can, it makes way more sense to buy a new rail and throw your old skinny one at another project. I'm a fan of a 10" .308 with a 6" suppressor... keep it pistol and avoid the other stamp, but when you're throwing money around left and right, no reason not to have a couple SBR'd AR15 lowers and an AR10 lower and not have to worry about it.
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Originally Posted by samnavy
You've got an AR10 in .308 and want a suppressor that is 1.25" in OD?
Not...exactly...



I mean, I am looking for a suppressor 1.25" in diameter, but for a 7.62x39, not a .308. Lower velocities. I suppose I could try a full-auto rated 9mm can just to see how well it works.

Edit: Gemtech GM-9 is 1.25" diameter and rated for subsonic .300 Blackout. Should be GTG for subsonic commie rounds.

Edit edit: Jeez, the average chamber pressure of a subsonic 300 Blackout is under 40,000psi. 7.62x39 subbies are 50,000-ish. No joy.

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So, it's 7.62x39... what platform? AR or AK, or ?

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Not...exactly...
Bro, quit trolling. Tell us what you've got or go bug the guys on the Reddit NFA forum. https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/
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Sorry, I spend more time on gun forums than I do here - I just assumed that everybody would know what the picture I posted was. Gotta remember this is a gun thread on a car forum. That's a Definitive Arms adjustable gas block for an AKM.

For those of you not versed on suppressing an AK platform, there are two main problems - the 14x1LH barrel threading is not bore-centric, and the long-piston design is overgassed from the factory for reasons of soviet reliability, comrade. Suppressing it makes it even more overgassed resulting in it spitting in your face with every shot as the excess gas blows out the charging handle slot in the dust cover. The solution to problem one is form 1 SBR it and just cut bore-centric threads in a more common western threading, probably 1/2x28. The solution to problem two is an adjustable gas block. The more common adjustable gas piston is not desirable because it just vents the excess gas straight into the action (and out the side, and into your face).

Now you know.

Note: there is a suppressor made specifically for the AK without doing any of the above, the Dead Air Wolverine. For a plug and play solution it's pretty good but it's a compromise, especially if you plan on shooting subsonic.
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Poscat for Fred Thompson. I voted for him in a Presidential primary, once upon a time.



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