MS2 AC Idle Up Code
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your broken *** miata might idle up to 1200RPM, but that's not the norm.
and no, you're not going to knock at 850rpm with the a/c on.
I do agree something is happening that shouldnt with your firmware, and it's worth figuring out what.
Also, your clt temps shouldn't be dancing around so rapidly like that, that suggests a grounding problem. What lag factor is CLT/AIT set to?
and no, you're not going to knock at 850rpm with the a/c on.
I do agree something is happening that shouldnt with your firmware, and it's worth figuring out what.
Also, your clt temps shouldn't be dancing around so rapidly like that, that suggests a grounding problem. What lag factor is CLT/AIT set to?
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Can't help you if you won't help you....
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My car does, hence the high idle for AC. Hell it knocks if i put the hi-beams on. Though now i come to think of it, only with the diypnp.
So. assuming all other things being equal. I guess i have a broken *** tune around idle. Odd though that the v5 version of this mod worked so well for me.
So. assuming all other things being equal. I guess i have a broken *** tune around idle. Odd though that the v5 version of this mod worked so well for me.
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I'm in Chicago. It's kinda cold here for AC. The log was of a drive home and was posted to show that my idle PID doesn't generally do crazy ****. I already said i'll provide another log later today.
So far your help has been along the lines of "not my problem buddy" so even if i provide a log showing what exactly is happening i doubt anything meaningful will come from you.
So far your help has been along the lines of "not my problem buddy" so even if i provide a log showing what exactly is happening i doubt anything meaningful will come from you.
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Can you elaborate? The video didn't outline what specifically is not working.
Also, what are your Output settings?
Also, what are your Output settings?
How much help you get is up to you... I can't magically know what is wrong without data.... so best you do move on.
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I went to V6 because of the graceful off feature. I like the idea of that rather than just going out of closed loop and waiting for the PID idle to take over and i have to admit the graceful off part of this code seems to work very well. It's the "on" part that is giving me trouble.
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#1 I'm not Greg G.
#2 I'm also not the only person in the thread who is trying to help you but your attitude is getting in the way.
#3 My question regarding the story is that most of what you've posted here is vague at best, contradicting, and you are incredibly argumentative.
How about we start this again with a simple request - please post your MSQ and MSL with the firmware v6 and a clear description of the problem so that I (the person who wrote this mod) can appreciate your problem.
If you don't do that, I'll happily ignore your posts.
G
#2 I'm also not the only person in the thread who is trying to help you but your attitude is getting in the way.
#3 My question regarding the story is that most of what you've posted here is vague at best, contradicting, and you are incredibly argumentative.
How about we start this again with a simple request - please post your MSQ and MSL with the firmware v6 and a clear description of the problem so that I (the person who wrote this mod) can appreciate your problem.
If you don't do that, I'll happily ignore your posts.
G
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And please do not attribute fake quotes to me! The second quote, I never said anything to you in that tone! And the first quote where I suggested you make a separate thread for your specific issues...looks like I was right eh?
Edit: oh I get it gslender said that 2nd quote...so how did the quote button put my name there
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Agreed, and i'm working on them, one at a time.
Thank you. That is most helpful.
My apologies. To both of you. I wasn't concentrating.
My intention is not to be argumentative. I'm intending to figure out how to get my car to idle correctly under all conditions. I'm frustrated and if that comes across as argumentative i apologize.
That sounds perfect. See my post above.
My apologies. To both of you. I wasn't concentrating.
That sounds perfect. See my post above.
#99
OK. I'm back.
Everyone said my tune sucked.. so based on the comment above from bearda i revisited the idle section. Reduced the timing down to 10 (from 17 (which was what i was advised to set it to somewhere else...) and adjusted the idle bypass screw some more. Now i have a steady(ish) 800rpm idle.
I also adjusted my settings such that now the V6 code works.
Short datalog and the msq file attached. I still see some oscillation when in AC idle which i need to tune out (pointers appreciated) but the code does indeed work. Apologies all round for jumping the gun. I'll take my tuning questions to a different thread.
Everyone said my tune sucked.. so based on the comment above from bearda i revisited the idle section. Reduced the timing down to 10 (from 17 (which was what i was advised to set it to somewhere else...) and adjusted the idle bypass screw some more. Now i have a steady(ish) 800rpm idle.
I also adjusted my settings such that now the V6 code works.
Short datalog and the msq file attached. I still see some oscillation when in AC idle which i need to tune out (pointers appreciated) but the code does indeed work. Apologies all round for jumping the gun. I'll take my tuning questions to a different thread.
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OK. I'm back.
Everyone said my tune sucked.. so based on the comment above from bearda i revisited the idle section. Reduced the timing down to 10 (from 17 (which was what i was advised to set it to somewhere else...) and adjusted the idle bypass screw some more. Now i have a steady(ish) 800rpm idle.
I also adjusted my settings such that now the V6 code works.
Short datalog and the msq file attached. I still see some oscillation when in AC idle which i need to tune out (pointers appreciated) but the code does indeed work. Apologies all round for jumping the gun. I'll take my tuning questions to a different thread.
Everyone said my tune sucked.. so based on the comment above from bearda i revisited the idle section. Reduced the timing down to 10 (from 17 (which was what i was advised to set it to somewhere else...) and adjusted the idle bypass screw some more. Now i have a steady(ish) 800rpm idle.
I also adjusted my settings such that now the V6 code works.
Short datalog and the msq file attached. I still see some oscillation when in AC idle which i need to tune out (pointers appreciated) but the code does indeed work. Apologies all round for jumping the gun. I'll take my tuning questions to a different thread.
I've got some improvements for v7 that should improve decel dashpotadder which doubles up the AC adder, which your issue was showing. You were actually jumping from pid and into decel routines, which the dashpotadder code plays into, which is why it was jumping up - so whilst that is a bug, you shouldn't really have that problem and where you are heading with a stable 850 idle and 950 with AC is the go.
Cheers,
G