Running lean at higher boost (was not last week)
#21
I don't know how to tell if his image is correct (though I assume that if it was wrong other people would have seen my issue too - are there other folk running Sabotuer's 9093 NoAFM HiRes image?).
Last edited by aseer; 05-05-2008 at 04:57 PM.
#22
I have been reading and thought I would try EasyTherm on the HiRes 10g fw (just to see if anything changes). Just so I understand
If I am wrong and there is a discussion/faq/manual that covers this feel free to point me to it and I will keep reading.
- if I have the MSPNP9093 installation can I just pull the s19 and ini files from here:
- then run EasyTherm on the s19 and move the modified s19 into a copy of my MSPNP9093 (No AFM) folder and src subfolder as described here (so I do not skip to step 4 as I did when using his image):
- move the .ini to the same project folder (top level)
- And then run the download.bat utility in that folder (along with my .msq).
If I am wrong and there is a discussion/faq/manual that covers this feel free to point me to it and I will keep reading.
#24
Is that different than taking KeithG's 10G s19 file and running Easytherm on it and putting it back into a copy of my 9093 directory and flashing?
This is the first time I have had to modify the image and I appreciate you helping me get it right.
Regards,
Dave
(before I saw your note I tried the latter method (EasyTherm) and saw a huge difference in performance at boost, but the run is relatively short and today is a bit cooler than yesterday - but it did not run lean at all up to >10psi, I stopped when I realized that I was now running way too rich and needed to tune - I also realized I needed to better understand how the image is generated to be sure I got everything correct)
#25
I took another run on the new files and I don't see anything like the prior behavior. It is cooler out but the MAT is not that different. I will go back to the original HiRes 10G files from the other thread and see if the problem comes back but right now I am not running lean at all at high boost.
#26
So I ran today as well with warmer temps (same as when I was first noticed the issue). Ran to higher boost (>11.5 psi or so) and saw no issues (does not run lean and nothing like the issues we were discussing). The only thing I did was to Easytherm the file I had been using (the one posted here for 9093NoAFM https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17901) and then reload everything. Dunno what made the difference (I had reloaded the .msq which did not help before) but I hope the problem does not come back.
Thanks to all for taking a look and commenting.
If it holds up for a couple of days I am off to the dyno.
Thanks to all for taking a look and commenting.
If it holds up for a couple of days I am off to the dyno.
#27
Thanks for the PM aseer. I was running the same firmware image on my car (JRSC) without the AFM and I didn't appear to have this problem. I was careful when creating those images but there's a chance I have entered the wrong value somewhere.
I think to be safe I'll publish all the values used when running EasyTherm (along with a screenshot) for each version of the firmware, then everyone can check these against their inc files.
Cheers
I think to be safe I'll publish all the values used when running EasyTherm (along with a screenshot) for each version of the firmware, then everyone can check these against their inc files.
Cheers
#28
the problem returns
So I had a week of good running (including a drive from Nor Cal to So Cal for dyno tuning, and back - no issues at all with it going lean). Unfortunately the problem has reoccurred and this time it is intermittent (looks just like before so I won't post the new logs unless someone is curious). Namely, I have runs where I am hitting >10psi with no issues (and the car flies after the tune) and I have a run where the car leans out at high boost just as before and then later that night the car is fine again as well as the morning. I suspect the Easytherm thing was a coincidence (namely I just got lucky ).
Unless anyone has other ideas I am going to pull the dual stage fuel system I have in now and replace it with a single high flow Walbro (stock pump plus the aux pump that came with FM package are what I have now). We'll pressure test first but since the issue is intermittent I am not sure we'll see a drop.
Thanks again for all who chimed in (and to DIYAutotune/Matt for taking a look at the logs, those guys are great).
Unless anyone has other ideas I am going to pull the dual stage fuel system I have in now and replace it with a single high flow Walbro (stock pump plus the aux pump that came with FM package are what I have now). We'll pressure test first but since the issue is intermittent I am not sure we'll see a drop.
Thanks again for all who chimed in (and to DIYAutotune/Matt for taking a look at the logs, those guys are great).
Last edited by aseer; 05-14-2008 at 03:15 PM.
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