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Old 06-07-2016, 02:23 PM   #321
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Just curious, pressing the A/C button with the interior fan doesn't manually activate your fan?

how many people would we need for there to be interest in making this a reality?
My old shell had A/C, this new one doesn't though. I recycled the fan and was running both in tandem.

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Beautiful. ~90C ABS starts to weaken. ~105C it weakens more (Tg or glass transition). Oil temps will likely reach these values so I would recommend another material if possible.

http://www.nrri.umn.edu/NLTC/ABS07.pdf
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PC Thermoplastic, Fortus 3D Production Systems FDM Materials | Stratasys

If you have good airflow and an insulated / gasketed gap you can probably get away with ABS. PC or PC/ABS mix will raise the temp as you can gain ~50C or ~20C respectively on the glass transition temperature.
Cover the inside with some reflective foil tape maybe? I suspect the radiant heat can be minimized and the material supported in the event that it does crack it might stick together for a bit. As long as there is perhaps a rubber and/or foam gap between the cooler and the plastic I bet the material will stay below failure temperature. No promises on 100* Sun and Asphalt.
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Old 06-07-2016, 02:38 PM   #322
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That's curious. My fans are also in tandem and the main run when A/C is used anyway. I don't have an A/C compressor at the moment, but I can turn my fans on manually by switching on the blower and pressing the A/C button.
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If the chassis doesn't come with A/C from the factory, they may not have the A/C button on the blower motor controls.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:21 PM   #324
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What would you two be willing to pay for something like that?
Some prerequisites for a kit (IMHO)
  • Fit NA+NB
  • Some testing to assure a) durability and b) efficiency/effectiveness.
If it works as well as it looks, efficiency should be up there, and it removes clutter/obstruction from intake mouth - win/win. Not sure about the NA/NB adaptability, may be difference in bracketry and need for some moulded in marks saying 'cut here'?

The heat issue needs resolution one way or another, and there may be a need to protect the plastic from rocks and debris off the tyre, but that may be as simple as providing mounting points for purchasers to mount their own aluminium shield as and if they wish (or maybe that is too trivial for the 'can do' folk on here).
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If you're really concerned for the heat its relatively easy to sand and filler the printed parts and make molds off of them for making composites using resin with better high temp properties than abs. And thats probably better suited to production than actually printing all of them.
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If the chassis doesn't come with A/C from the factory, they may not have the A/C button on the blower motor controls.
Didn't realize it never had the option.
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Mishimoto Oil cooler kit.

Has anyone besides them done any testing on it yet. They have redone it a couple of times since the univeral release. They've incorporated a duct at the undertray with mesh for protection. Granted, it only has a 10 row core, but uses 10an lines, larger than FM and better airflow than FM too. It shouldn't increase engine pressure that much I think.

They are having a massive sale 30% off and I might spring for it because it would be around $345 shipped

http://m.mishimoto.com/mazda-miata-oil-cooler-kit-99-05.html

http://engineering.mishimoto.com/2015/09/mazda-miata-nb-oil-cooler-rd-part-2-oil-cooler-shroud-and-duct-development/
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Our experience with Mishimoto products has not been favorable. They do appear to be improving since the catch can we received from them that was non-functional. As in, whomever designed it didn't know how a catch can works. Just a shiny can with some fittings. Radiators that don't fit. Fans that disintegrate, etc

Setrab and TSE OTOH.. that is a no brainer. Don't skimp on your oil cooler.
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Old 07-02-2016, 10:24 AM   #329
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I've had the same experience. They had a thread on cr.net with some statements about their testing procedure that were just wrong. Testing the warm up time without driving (no air through the cooler) and similar.
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lol @ their cooler placement.
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Placement is not as bad as the ducting
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They basically used the same location as FM, just with a custom air duct. The location worries me though. I haven't had an off course track incident yet, but it'll happen eventually because that's racing. That duct will turn into a nice shovel plow.

I haven't had any over heating issues yet with my stock MSM cooling system. I just wanted to gather some input on it and see if anyone had any decent luck with it. I wouldn't call it cheaping out considering they do use some quality parts and that price tag.

I really dislike fabricating all the time and was just looking for a solid plug and play solution like my moss kit on the NA.
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I'm using a location that is not too far off on my new car (laying flat under the sway bar) but I have a splitter that will take any hit well before something comes even close to the cooler and my ducting is done completely differently.
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They basically used the same location as FM, just with a custom air duct. The location worries me though. I haven't had an off course track incident yet, but it'll happen eventually because that's racing. That duct will turn into a nice shovel plow.

I haven't had any over heating issues yet with my stock MSM cooling system. I just wanted to gather some input on it and see if anyone had any decent luck with it. I wouldn't call it cheaping out considering they do use some quality parts and that price tag.

I really dislike fabricating all the time and was just looking for a solid plug and play solution like my moss kit on the NA.
You're comparing a Setrab core to a Mishimoto core. That is about as apples and orange as you get.
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You're comparing a Setrab core to a Mishimoto core. That is about as apples and orange as you get.

Hate to play the devils advocate, especially with you Emilio since I respect everything you have done for the platform. Has anyone compared this oil cooler core vs a setrab equivalent? Or even emailed them and asked them if it is a debaged Setrab? Flow testing? Like I almost want to get it to test things out just. I mean, I currently run an eBay FMIC and downpipe and a joes CAI intake on my MSM. Car works beautifully and flawless over the past 2 yrs. Yet, I am the devil because, I didn't buy Begi or FM, in the MSM world.
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Has anyone compared this oil cooler core vs a setrab equivalent? Or even emailed them and asked them if it is a debaged Setrab? Flow testing? Like I almost want to get it to test things out just.
Mishimoto is not a company that understands functionality. They are cost-driven to a fault. Occasionally they get lucky and produce a product which is functional (their silicone heater hoses are the only example I can think of), but most of what they produce is lowest-possible-cost garbage which appears functional to the untrained eye but actually performs substantially worse than the products it "competes" against. And yet people see the price tag and assume that because it "looks" the same, it might (or even must) perform the same.

In other words, feel free to do that testing and share it with the community. Controlled A-B testing with inlet/outlet temps measured and datalogged in relation to ambient air temp. With all due respect, I won't waste my time trying to justify the functionality of a Setrab cooler compared to some off-brand knockoff core.
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Hello All,

Thank you for the post and inquiry about our products. All of our products are tested and engineered here in the USA and go through a long testing process to ensure high quality and reliability for our customers. For any additional information, or questions, please contact us directly.
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You would sound more convincing if you didn't post the same generic "quality" disclaimer that all the other knockoff companies posted.

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You would sound more convincing if you didn't post the same generic "quality" disclaimer that all the other knockoff companies posted.

In their defense, you could not expect a corporate representative to issue anything other than generic rhetoric. It is it is really up to the consumer to do their homework understand what they are buying and make their own decision. Caveat emptor
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I'll just leave this right here:

Oil cooler (25row) duct kit with mounting brackets

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