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Old 06-24-2008, 02:37 PM
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I just installed a set of 1st gen FM springs on my Konis. I have FCM mounts and bumpstops also. The springs are loose enough to move around. I didn't even need to compress them to put the mounts on.

It doesn't take much pressure to move the mount down to the top of the spring. It is maybe 4-6mm away. Is this normal? I'm going to try putting it in to see if the suspension is tight enough to simply hold them together.

EDIT: The Konis are on the highest perch as per the FCM instructions. I would call Shaikh, but I think the springs are the problem not the mounts.
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Damn it, this should have been in the suspension forum. I forgot we have that now.
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My setup is different but my spring when not under load are loose too. Work fine.
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I went and put everything together. I made sure to torque the bolts under load and to proper spec. The springs are tight when in the air, but when I put the wheel on it sags a 1-2mm. It's not enough to come out of the perches like before, so I'm ok with it.

The car looks GOOD. I can't wait to see how it handles.
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Think about it. You are going to a much shorter spring, it's no surprise that under full droop you run out of spring. That's why you see some coilovers with helper springs.

My GC/AGX setup does the same thing, I've never had a problem since I don't often get the car airborn.
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Think about it. You are going to a much shorter spring, it's no surprise that under full droop you run out of spring. That's why you see some coilovers with helper springs.

My GC/AGX setup does the same thing, I've never had a problem since I don't often get the car airborn.
It does make sense, but i was afraid of it before I installed them. The spring could come out of the perches. I was afraid of the car being able to move enough to let the spring come out. After installing it I see that is not possible.

Thanks for letting me know its ok though.
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Well, at least you didn't do what another MT forum member did and put the springs on the wrong end... F on R and R on F.... and THEN call me and ask which springs go where.
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Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
Well, at least you didn't do what another MT forum member did and put the springs on the wrong end... F on R and R on F.... and THEN call me and ask which springs go where.
At work everyone kept telling me the longer ones go upfront. I kept telling them the longer ones came OFF the back, why would they go on the front? That was annoying to deal with all day.

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Same here on tokico/gc.

And the sizes confused me. Shorter spring on front with longer shock. Had to compare pn w/ springs
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Congrats, I still see gap though...
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Originally Posted by kotomile
Congrats, I still see gap though...
they'll still settle slightly. and more gap means more travel.....
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stiff springs = less need for travel
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soft springs and travel is all the rage.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
soft springs and travel is all the rage.
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Thanks to The_pipefather my car runs! He managed to sort out the MS, so I got to take it for a drive. I will be taking pictures tommorow of how it sits. I'm sure everyone is bored of seeing it sitting in my driveway, so I will go find some decent looking spot. I love the stance it has.

With the FCM mounts and bumpstops I have all the travel I will ever need. That being said I doubt the springs even compress...they are STIFF. It's ok though, I like it that way.
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