looking for advice, koni setup vs $$$
#42
MX5Racer
"What is missing in this whole coversation is the primary useage for these shocks. If it is a street driven car, stay with twin-tube. Twin-tube shocks have gas pressue that helps prevent the shock oil from frothing (Creating bubbles). Mono-tube shocks do not have the gas pressure so they are more prone to frothing, and when you get air bubbles in the oil, the piston is no longer being controlled by that oil. "
Obviously you don't have a clue that a monotube has a separate chamber that contains nitrogen that keeps the oil from cavitating.
"What is missing in this whole coversation is the primary useage for these shocks. If it is a street driven car, stay with twin-tube. Twin-tube shocks have gas pressue that helps prevent the shock oil from frothing (Creating bubbles). Mono-tube shocks do not have the gas pressure so they are more prone to frothing, and when you get air bubbles in the oil, the piston is no longer being controlled by that oil. "
Obviously you don't have a clue that a monotube has a separate chamber that contains nitrogen that keeps the oil from cavitating.
#46
Having run both in a competitive environment (yep, that lowly autocross, but this applies to the track as well) is the lack of adjustability. So you're out at your first session, and the car is a pushy pig.. what can you do? Tire pressures.. and maybe a single sway bar adjustment? At least with the Konis you can increase or decrease rebound at either end of the car, which help more in transition. Yep, when the track conditions suited my revalved R bilsteins they were much better than the konis, but when they were off, there wasn't much I could do other than shutup and drive.
<firesuit on>I'll admit the 949 offering is an easy button. 949racing.com, pull out the CC and they're at your door in a week or so, but they're not the only game in town. Prather seems to have the afco monotubes figured out. Penske has a top notch offering, Koni has the 3011/3012 series monotubes or the 2812's. Heck even Bilstien will make a double adjustable shock if you call them up. All are in the same price ranges as the Xida, but require a phone call and consultation.
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<firesuit on>I'll admit the 949 offering is an easy button. 949racing.com, pull out the CC and they're at your door in a week or so, but they're not the only game in town. Prather seems to have the afco monotubes figured out. Penske has a top notch offering, Koni has the 3011/3012 series monotubes or the 2812's. Heck even Bilstien will make a double adjustable shock if you call them up. All are in the same price ranges as the Xida, but require a phone call and consultation.
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#48
For the record I moved from Koni Sports to the revalved Bilsteins on my ES car and was happy with the move. If I was to do it again, I'd have more strongly considered revalving the konis for less rebound and more lowspeed compression .
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