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Old 03-15-2013, 12:25 PM   #41
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OP, buy maniac's setup when he upgrades to Xida's. Problem solved!
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:42 PM   #42
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"What is missing in this whole coversation is the primary useage for these shocks. If it is a street driven car, stay with twin-tube. Twin-tube shocks have gas pressue that helps prevent the shock oil from frothing (Creating bubbles). Mono-tube shocks do not have the gas pressure so they are more prone to frothing, and when you get air bubbles in the oil, the piston is no longer being controlled by that oil. "

Obviously you don't have a clue that a monotube has a separate chamber that contains nitrogen that keeps the oil from cavitating.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:44 PM   #43
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I totally forgot about emilio's Tein packages. Great value there. Less money than FM's V-maxx stuff, with a bigger brand.

I never understood why he sold Tein. My Basics weren't too bad, but is anyone actually using these for anything but street use?




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Old 03-18-2013, 10:25 AM   #44
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Just like with the springs they sell: pretty sure its just due to popular demand, and not because Emilio approves of them
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I like my teins, but I understand their weaknesses. but MUCH better overall over my koni setup.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:47 PM   #46
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Having run both in a competitive environment (yep, that lowly autocross, but this applies to the track as well) is the lack of adjustability. So you're out at your first session, and the car is a pushy pig.. what can you do? Tire pressures.. and maybe a single sway bar adjustment? At least with the Konis you can increase or decrease rebound at either end of the car, which help more in transition. Yep, when the track conditions suited my revalved R bilsteins they were much better than the konis, but when they were off, there wasn't much I could do other than shutup and drive.

<firesuit on>I'll admit the 949 offering is an easy button. 949racing.com, pull out the CC and they're at your door in a week or so, but they're not the only game in town. Prather seems to have the afco monotubes figured out. Penske has a top notch offering, Koni has the 3011/3012 series monotubes or the 2812's. Heck even Bilstien will make a double adjustable shock if you call them up. All are in the same price ranges as the Xida, but require a phone call and consultation.
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so you can adjust from too much rebound all the way to TOOOOOOOOO MUCH MOTHER ******* REBOUND OMFG WE ARE ALL GOIGN TO DIE FROM JACKING DOWNNNNSADFSAFSAfds?!!!!?!?!
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so you can adjust from too much rebound all the way to TOOOOOOOOO MUCH MOTHER ******* REBOUND OMFG WE ARE ALL GOIGN TO DIE FROM JACKING DOWNNNNSADFSAFSAfds?!!!!?!?!
In that price range, what else you gonna do? Get something that works well half the time, or get something that works ok ALL the time. What I'm saying is, in the sub $1000 range you've got to make compromises, which compromise do you want to make?

For the record I moved from Koni Sports to the revalved Bilsteins on my ES car and was happy with the move. If I was to do it again, I'd have more strongly considered revalving the konis for less rebound and more lowspeed compression .
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I don't understand the hate...if you think they have too much rebound, run more spring!

My codriver and I love our Koni Race setup.
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I don't understand the hate...if you think they have too much rebound, run more spring!

My codriver and I love our Koni Race setup.
If you run more spring, the ride quality gets even worse. Keep trying to convince us that twin-tube, underdamped, high-hysteria, linear, valved for stock springs shocks are still relevant.



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