MFactory upgraded gearsets
03-22-2017, 10:19 AM
#163
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30 sets isn't much. How many sets of wheels does a retailer buy from a supplier? Cast exhaust manifolds? $20k in inventory isn't much. How many EFR's is that? Coilover sets? Carbon bicycles?
What's the better choice: 3.3 diff + installation, 'cheap' T5 and install kit which doesn't exist, usable first for street kids
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6 speed, new innards + installation?
I may be oversimplifying this.
What's the better choice: 3.3 diff + installation, 'cheap' T5 and install kit which doesn't exist, usable first for street kids
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6 speed, new innards + installation?
I may be oversimplifying this.
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03-22-2017, 10:26 AM
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This is why I was wondering if the 'bigger' miata companies were interested in jumping onboard. If they were, then you could increase the minimum order, get a better price, and spread the capital required for the sets over a few folks so one person wouldn't be sitting on all the inventory and all the 'risk' to get the order through.
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03-22-2017, 10:38 AM
#166
For what it's worth, whilst there are several factories in Taiwan that have the capability and machines to make hypoid gears, there is only one manufacturer in Taiwan that specialises in the performance aftermarket (for gearing products) and is willing to produce them in small-batch quantities; us (Who are INFINITUDE? - YCW Engineering Ltd Forums). All the other factories are setup for mass-quantity/oem (i.e 500 moq)
I believe that the individual you are talking about (actually, I am almost 100% certain) was the one responsible for us having these 3.3 final drives in the first place. Note that this reply is from our "companies" perspective, NOT our "brand" (i.e MFactory):
1) Said individual contacted both MFactory and one of MFactory's US competitors at the same time
2) As we do not succumb to low-balling, said individual decided to order through the US competitor instead (read the forum link that I posted up above for background info on our "company", not our "brand")
3) The US competitor put the order through for 30 sets (which is our moq), and with all custom orders, we always ship out a prototype first to be tested
4) Said individual installed the prototype, but was not happy with the excessive "noise"
5) Because of this, we decided to have our own US facility (MFactory R&D) install one in an S2000 to see if we got the same results; we did not. What this suggests is that said individual did not shim/setup/install the ring & pinion properly
6) Being a "specialist", said individual refused to acknowledge fault, so cancelled the order with the US competitor (this is based on what the US competitor told us; we did not deal directly with said individual)
7) The US competitor basically being just a trading company, did not have the funds to "take the hit", so decided to also cancel their order with us, thus leaving us with around 15 sets (+/- a couple) of the initial prototype batch (hence the slight lack of "finished look" as mentioned by someone in the comments in this thread)
8) As anyone doing business acknowledges (on the "frontend" anyway), the customer is always right, so we just decided to let it be and not make a fuss out of it, and decided to just add the sets we had left to our online catalog and let them sell by themselves (hence no promotion/marketing)
So unless there is significant interest in proceeding with this "discontinued" project and pushing into the production stage, once the initial batch is sold, there won't be anymore available. FYI, we only have 9 sets left in our inventory.
I believe that the individual you are talking about (actually, I am almost 100% certain) was the one responsible for us having these 3.3 final drives in the first place. Note that this reply is from our "companies" perspective, NOT our "brand" (i.e MFactory):
1) Said individual contacted both MFactory and one of MFactory's US competitors at the same time
2) As we do not succumb to low-balling, said individual decided to order through the US competitor instead (read the forum link that I posted up above for background info on our "company", not our "brand")
3) The US competitor put the order through for 30 sets (which is our moq), and with all custom orders, we always ship out a prototype first to be tested
4) Said individual installed the prototype, but was not happy with the excessive "noise"
5) Because of this, we decided to have our own US facility (MFactory R&D) install one in an S2000 to see if we got the same results; we did not. What this suggests is that said individual did not shim/setup/install the ring & pinion properly
6) Being a "specialist", said individual refused to acknowledge fault, so cancelled the order with the US competitor (this is based on what the US competitor told us; we did not deal directly with said individual)
7) The US competitor basically being just a trading company, did not have the funds to "take the hit", so decided to also cancel their order with us, thus leaving us with around 15 sets (+/- a couple) of the initial prototype batch (hence the slight lack of "finished look" as mentioned by someone in the comments in this thread)
8) As anyone doing business acknowledges (on the "frontend" anyway), the customer is always right, so we just decided to let it be and not make a fuss out of it, and decided to just add the sets we had left to our online catalog and let them sell by themselves (hence no promotion/marketing)
So unless there is significant interest in proceeding with this "discontinued" project and pushing into the production stage, once the initial batch is sold, there won't be anymore available. FYI, we only have 9 sets left in our inventory.
The remaining units are gonna fly off the shelf lol
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03-22-2017, 11:17 AM
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**** it. Just bought mine. $625 shipped. I am not going to risk missing out on this when used 3.6 are in the 400s. Unless this was a genius sales tactic and they have like 100 on order.
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03-22-2017, 12:13 PM
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Ha, I was going to put mine into a Torsen so I didn't have to pay to have my OSG rebuilt again. Now that I know the gears are essentially irreplaceable, I may build into the OSG so that I don't accidentally break the torsen and trash this R&P 
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03-22-2017, 12:38 PM
#179
Wow! I'm glad I looked here when I did. These do exactly what I have been wanting: 5spd shift speeds from my 6spd with an extra gear up top for cruising. I mean, just look at the spreadsheet 
Looking for a card with some balance free, I really wanted cams but this is too sweet to pass up
Edit; Sav, that's a good point. I need to consider a more stout differential now...
Looking for a card with some balance free, I really wanted cams but this is too sweet to pass up
Edit; Sav, that's a good point. I need to consider a more stout differential now...
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