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Old 05-19-2009, 09:07 PM
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I forgot to say, crank & cam are working now.
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did you calibrate all these sensors? ie TPS and CLT?

http://y8spec.com/adaptronic/Harness-Yates_090502.xls <-- latest and greatest.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by y8s
did you calibrate all these sensors? ie TPS and CLT?

http://y8spec.com/adaptronic/Harness-Yates_090502.xls <-- latest and greatest.
Thanks Matt.

The "false" readings are still there even with the sensors physically disconnected from the wires.
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Originally Posted by ismael_pt
Sorry, I haven't explained myself very well. The Adaptronic reads the sensors, but the values are incorrect ( MAP don't change, colant temp is +30 or -30 or something, TPS is sometimes 20-23% and sometimes 40-45% and don't even change if I move the throttlebody)
Ah, so its just the log that has the wrong type of numbers showing. (the integer/decimal thing I was talking about.)

Congrats on tracking some of them down.
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:10 AM
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I updated the firmware and now i'm getting valid logs. But the problem with the ground connections are still there.
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update:

I have managed to make the adaptronic read the sensors, but when I move the throttle body, the reading goes to the MAP value in the adaptronic.

What is happening?
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ismael_pt
update:

I have managed to make the adaptronic read the sensors, but when I move the throttle body, the reading goes to the MAP value in the adaptronic.

What is happening?
Any news Ismael?
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Old 05-21-2009, 09:27 AM
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Sounds like you've got your TPS crossed with your MAP input. Just switch them.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:05 PM
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Great news! The Dacia Sandero is now available! the what?


Now... the other news.

All sensors are working. TPS and MAP were crossed.
I need to calibrate water and air sensors, btw here is a log of a cranking attempt.

Ignition shows 7º and don't move. Is this normal?
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It looks like you need to update your MAT table unless it really is -30ishC there. 7* cranking is normal. It won't do anything until you move it out of cranking mode. It seems like your cranking rpm is half what it should be... It should be more like 250-300 if I remember correctly. Maybe you have a trigger problem.
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:34 PM
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Travis, should the BAT54S diodes need to be installed ? Can I use another diode?
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the diodes keep one ECU from causing noise on the other. you dont need the bat54s. you can also use the BAT85 thru-hole if it makes it easier.

Digi-Key - 568-1617-2-ND (NXP Semiconductors - BAT85,113)

same specs and you can ignore the second diode pin on the wiring diagram as it goes to nowhere.
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Glad to see the progress!
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I have installed the schottky diodes today, but the cranking rpm continue being the same in the logs. Any ideas?
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I removed the spark plugs out to check the spark while cranking, and I have no spark!

IGN1 and ING2 are connected correctly, also CKP and CAS (with diodes now). I'm starting to think that I'm the silliest member on this forum.
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Originally Posted by ismael_pt
I removed the spark plugs out to check the spark while cranking, and I have no spark!

IGN1 and ING2 are connected correctly, also CKP and CAS (with diodes now). I'm starting to think that I'm the silliest member on this forum.
Maybe you blew your ignitors?

It happened to me when I first installed the MS. That's why I run COP now.
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Can the Adaptronic blow the ignitors?
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Originally Posted by ismael_pt
Can the Adaptronic blow the ignitors?
I don't know but; the MS sure did!

BTW Ismael; in my case that was a bitch to diagnose.
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Originally Posted by ismael_pt
I removed the spark plugs out to check the spark while cranking, and I have no spark!

IGN1 and ING2 are connected correctly, also CKP and CAS (with diodes now). I'm starting to think that I'm the silliest member on this forum.
you have IGN2 connected to 1 and 4 and IGN1 connected to 2 and 3, right? the adaptronic fires cylinder 2 "first".
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Originally Posted by y8s
you have IGN2 connected to 1 and 4 and IGN1 connected to 2 and 3, right? the adaptronic fires cylinder 2 "first".
Yes, IGN2 (green wire) connected to 1&4 and IGN1 (yellow wire) connected to 2&3.

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