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Old 08-25-2009, 10:55 PM   #21
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Yea me too until last night when a customer called with the newest software. I didn't even get a news letter about it. Its a completely different way to tune the tip in. I did it in about 20 minutes, and the throttle response is out of this world.
I loaded the new software and latest firmware. For some reason every time I open the s/w it resets my TPS based enrichment to 0. I think it's also changing the async. values. Anyone else have this problem?

Travis - can you post a screen shot of your predictive map mode settings?
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:17 PM   #22
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I figured you guys had the new software and were happy as hell with it, hence no posts. The new map prediction dialog box completely hoses my tip in. I'm running Travis' settings in the old version and have had pretty decent results. The new map prediction, not so much. Granted the values are as delivered from adaptronic, but it's worse than the old version. If anyone has suggestions as to settings, I'm all ears.
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:17 PM   #23
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I don't have the latest s/w but I am using the first beta that was output that makes logs the open directly in megatune. Anytime I start the s/w it auto changes my injector amps back to 0.9A when I have to run 1.8A. Basically stalls my car out. I'm not suprised to hear that other versions of the software reset value when you start it up. Would be nice to have it fixed.
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:29 PM   #24
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Anytime I start the s/w it auto changes my injector amps back to 0.9A when I have to run 1.8A.
That is big suckage right there. I had not noticed that but need to check for it. You might try posting up at the Adaptronic forum if you have not done so already. They are pretty responsive, though one of course has to wait awhile for back-and-forth discussions due to the time difference.

I looked at the new version of WARI and the MAP prediction mode. I get the x and y axes of course, but what do the values in the cells represent? If it is the 'predicted MAP value' then is it just kPa? I have not found anything detailed yet on the WARI site explaining how it works or suggestions on how to tune it.
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:03 AM   #25
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This is how I tuned mine.

Goto to the window, pop wari gauges open, and then set throttle to 1% put the KPA in then set throttle to 2% and put Kpa in, then 5 percent, and so on. Do that for the RPM ranges it wants. Then when you go back out of the the prediction table increase "time until sensed" until response is good. For me it was 200-300(this is ms even though its not marked), but it could be longer depending on where in the manifold you are drawing vacuum and how long the line is to the map sensor.
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Old 08-29-2009, 07:38 PM   #26
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I was modding my 1.6 tps earlier with a 3 wire tps from autozone so that I could take advantage of this and other features requiring linear tps. Then the heavens opened, rain poured, and my garage flooded as it always does when it rains a solid 1" in 30min. So I will finish it up tomorrow and report back after I am able to setup map prediction mode in wari.

Also, I just flashed the new f/w and am running the new wari, and I can unfortunately say that it still resets my inj pw back to 0.9A from my required 1.8A.....How do such little things annoy so much?
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Old 08-31-2009, 12:44 AM   #27
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TPS in, map predict mode tip in adjustment pretty much dialed in. Its the bomb. Almost no lean tip in at all on my logs.
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Old 12-14-2009, 02:00 AM   #28
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I had a similar problem, it was changing my dwell back to 2100 all the time. I fixed it by setting the engine type to "Custom" and it hasn't done it since.
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For anyone out there still having transient throttle issues using map prediction mode...

No matter what I tried, I was having problems. I tried every value possible in that darn table and nothing worked. Async set to 150? nope. 175? nope. 200? nope.

Then I calibrated my map sensor with a vacuum gauge... Super duper transient throttle now.
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+1 My transient got better after calibrating the map and going to VE tuning. Still have to tweek it though. What's your async set out now then?
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How much vacuum do you have to create with those hand pumps? The one I bought could not get any lower than about 34kpa so I just used the supplied settings.
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For anyone out there still having transient throttle issues using map prediction mode...

No matter what I tried, I was having problems. I tried every value possible in that darn table and nothing worked. Async set to 150? nope. 175? nope. 200? nope.

Then I calibrated my map sensor with a vacuum gauge... Super duper transient throttle now.

Good thing the manual says, right after setting your triggering up, to CALIBRATE THE MAP SENSOR.
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Good thing the manual says, right after setting your triggering up, to CALIBRATE THE MAP SENSOR.
I know, I read that, but didn't have a hand pump at the time... I just set the top end so that it read 101kpa... I didn't realize how far off the bottom end was.

I'm set 150 async now and it feels about right.
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this will blow your mind:

the ambient pressure is probably not 101kPa.

http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/

zoom in to your location and pick the closest weather station and use that pressure.

http://www.onlineconversion.com/pressure.htm

put it in, set the units to inches of Mercury and kilopascal

then use *that* as your ambient pressure.
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