We finally have a car in house to test it on. It is a 1.8L NA. I have a NB manifold going out to someone next week for a stock application. I am still waiting on the 1.6L manifold to come back from the customer. The project is not dead, just taking longer than expected since we are not testing them in house. If someone can get me a 1.6L and '99+ turbo'd car, I can get it done sooner. :)
Stephanie

I'm no where close to local but I'd be willing to help in any way possible.
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I have a '95 with a '99 head, that count for 99+? If so, I'll test it (it'll give me an excuse to put my car on a dyno), but like levnubhin, I'm not local. And after thinking about it, I have a feeling you're wanting one to be local for designing purposes. In any case, the offer is there.

Thank you! I will keep that in mind.
Stephanie

i have a 1.6. i'm swapping a head hopefully on sunday, and have a planned dyno day on the 27th. let me know

ooooorrrrr not

Threadsurrect for updates!

We have tried two different intake manifold versions. Results are not what was expected. It could be the manifold, it could be the car. So... we have another on in the works. It is due for tuning and testing this weekend.
Stephanie

Ill test on my 1.6!

+1

The 1.6L version you made for brad wasn't shabby at all. a 15hp gain with a 10tq peak loss at the slightly lower boost level didn't bother Brad at all. It had 30 more torque at redline.

id' take that. it put me at where i'd like to be

Where do i sign? Lol id love one for my 1.6L.

We are going to sell the 1.6L version, like the one tested! I will get it added to the website asap. The one we are having problems with is the NB, when used with the stock ECU. I am sure with a standalone, it would be fine. But the stock ECU is being a pain in my backside!
Stephanie

Dayum, you shouldve let me test it on my stock ecu when I had it in. I got that thing to do stuff it shouldnt have been able to do lol

Sweet! :bigtu:...holy shes an expensive one. Group buy anyone?

I'll ask Corky! We have been contemplating doing group buys too.
Stephanie

How many arms and legs will it cost?
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Just your twig and berries "nubby" lolz

approx. 3 of each.....exactly

Any word on the GB?

1.8 before 1.6! nobody owns crappy 1.6 cars...

^^^riiiiiiight

Lmao theres already manifolds out for the 1.8L...theres alot of us that own 1.6L here and most of us want manifolds, just at a good price.

retard
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ghey^^^ your getting one made what do you care lol

He's just mad because he's .2L deficient.

Lol
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Are you looking for dyno testing on a turbo NB?

Got approval for it today.

BEGI Group Buy Center - BEGi
Stephanie

Possibly. We have an MSM we are testing the IM for the NB on. Reasoning is if it does ok at 12 psi and stock ECU, then it should do ok on other NB's with boost.

The last intake manifold we installed on the MSM shows promise, according to Corky. He thinks it is much faster than before. I have yet to do any tuning or put on dyno though. Hopefully I can get to it on Sunday.
Stephanie

And what ever happened to my offer Steph?

I sent you a PM. :)
Stephanie

My car isn't currently running but I have lots of dyno access and can possibly test manifolds in the future.

Ill be testing one of these manis in the comming weeks with before and after dynos!

Sorry if this is posted earlier in the thread, but it's too much reading.

What are the runner lengths? I'm considering using this for a potential future SC project! WTF!!! Yes you read that right.

We finally have a winner! For stock motors, that is. Very different than any other design. It showed a 7-9 whp gain between all runs, and weights 9 lbs less. :)

Info and pictures:
BEGi - - Front Page News - msm_intakemanifold

We still have a few cars that will need to be tested on. But we are finally on the right track!
Stephanie

looks good! any inside pictures? will you be able to flip these for the front wheel drive guys?

1.6?????

We will do one for all year cars. Once the runners are cast, we will test it on the 1.6L too!
Stephanie

What was wrong with the old cast manifold? Just wondering. It's good to see some positive results from the new design and your effort.

The old cast manifold took too long to machine. In order to leave the pricing where it was, a new version was needed. Welding on CNC parts is a lot faster and cheaper. Plus that was for higher boost applications only. We needed a part for 12 psi applications or less. We are happy with the results on the bent tube version, and can't wait to test it on more applications.
Stephanie

Need a tester for the 94-97 1.8?!? Huh, huh, do ya!!!

Just finishing a mild build. No crank work - likely stupidly since everything was apart - Wiseco's, m-tuned rods, some mild head work - mainly deshrouding, 3 angle job, port matching, casting clean up - and your S4 system. Motor is ready to go in, just looking for a block of time to make the swap. I could do before and after dynos. Looking to make that ubiquitous 300hp reliably.

So whats the dilly? I saw on your homepage that one of the runners was back from the foundry and it looked awesome.

The runner arrived with a small hole in the casting. Corky is fixing the core box now, and it should be off to the foundry in a few days.
Stephanie

cool thanks for the update. So its looking like next month maybe till they are ready for sale?

The pattern has been sent to the foundry again. I am told a sample should be here in about 2 weeks!
Stephanie

Months later, any updates?

Three foundry samples later, we finally have a casting that poured correctly. They are making more castings for me, so we can do some more testing and start selling them! Pictures to be posted in a few.
Stephanie

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P2160043.JPG

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P2160045.JPG

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P2160048.JPG
Stephanie

That looks fantastic! Ive said it in the past but i really wanna be a guinea pig! I have access to 2 dynos i can use whenever to show before and after results.

I'd gladly be a guinea pig too, just throw one in the box when you send my turbine housing back, lol :)

I know this is MiataTurbo.net, but any thing that will work on a high compression NA 1.6?

Looks like a pipe sherlock holmes would puff on.

Yes. A turbo.

Those runners came out nice. I'd like to see the project completed!

How long are those BTW, 9-10"? They appear to be shorter than stock, I like the smooth taper. with the right plenum I can see how you'd see improvements throughout the entire powerband.

Yes, very nice indeed. Get on it begi.

Taking FOREVER!!!!

I KNOW!! We are waiting on the foundry to ship us castings at this point. The foundry had our approval for 15 more castings the same day the last sample was sent to us. They have more in the schedule to ship later as well. Just waiting on them. I have a car here already, waiting, for back to back dyno testing.
Stephanie

Any updates?