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Old Mar 8, 2018 | 06:38 AM
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How long is the WRC restrictor 2in wide? How long are the intercooler pipes 2in wide? Losses are real.

Don't get me wrong, I'm certain that 2 inch pipes could get to 400 horsepower, it just might take a lot more effort and therefore heat from the turbo to get there. If I was limited by some sort of rules for a particular racing series that would be one thing but for an open modification track build I would not consider it.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 09:51 AM
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Thats a really neat way of doing the wiring.
Old Mar 12, 2018 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
How long is the WRC restrictor 2in wide? How long are the intercooler pipes 2in wide? Losses are real.

Don't get me wrong, I'm certain that 2 inch pipes could get to 400 horsepower, it just might take a lot more effort and therefore heat from the turbo to get there. If I was limited by some sort of rules for a particular racing series that would be one thing but for an open modification track build I would not consider it.
The pressure drop based on volume flow rate, hence I was saying the higher boost the motor the less the 2" is an issue. If you're running 30+ psi to hit 400hp and have a pretty short and straight piping path 2" is enough. I calculated it on my 1.8 and thats why I went with 2", and I calculated it again when I went to the 2.5 MZR that would make 400hp with 12-18psi and went with 2.5" IC piping. And why on a v8 that only takes 4-6psi to hit 400hp you need 3 or 3.5" IC piping.
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Temp IC setup,

Ready to boost


When I started testing the new engine I had stock fuel pump and aeromotive fpr, when I turned the key on (no crank) the fuel pressure would go up to 60psi~ and stay there...
After a day or two when I did that again I noticed the pressure would go to 60psi and then to 0.
I replaced the pump with a dw200 and the pressure acts the same, when the engine starts the fuel pressure is good and now tuned to 32psi~ idle and 43psi~ when on the throttle.

I have hard time cold starting and warm start is not perfect too, could be the 0 pressure before crank is to blame ? or just tune it ?

Is there any one way valve the failed ?

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Old Mar 15, 2018 | 09:34 PM
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Normal behavior afaik for the pressure. There is no check valve to prevent the pressure from going down after prime.
Old Mar 28, 2018 | 06:32 AM
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Turbo is dead :\ there was a little metal flack in the restrictor... could be the oil supply was interrupted...




Turbo will some times spin normally and then stop and have a difficult point (all by hand)
Ordered a different one, maybe I'll get CHRA for this one.

Was there any way to avoid that damage ?
I run fine before boost, now it sound like a police siren when running.

The first oil filter came out ok, with very little metal dots if any.

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Old Mar 28, 2018 | 07:08 AM
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So you smoked the bearings in the turbo. I went back to see what turbo you had, and all I found was 5 pages of people telling you to not use that location for an oil feed, or risk the turbo AND head. Hope the head did ok.

live and learn I guess. Was looking forward to a dyno day.
Old Mar 28, 2018 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit
So you smoked the bearings in the turbo. I went back to see what turbo you had, and all I found was 5 pages of people telling you to not use that location for an oil feed, or risk the turbo AND head. Hope the head did ok.

live and learn I guess. Was looking forward to a dyno day.

Oh he took it post oil restrictor? That's what they do in Australia right?
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You think it's the oil feed source location that caused the failure ?
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Old Mar 28, 2018 | 08:03 AM
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5 pages of people telling you it would fail. It failed. What do you think?
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
I've seen the size of the oil orifice in the top of the block at the head gasket where it feeds oil to the Head. It is already quite small. Taking a lot of that oil away from the cams and valves might be a bit of an issue. And if you have a journal bearing turbo that might limit your oil a little as well.
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We've done over 100 easily.

We have had a bunch apart years after doing them and the cam journals and all wear surfaces look normal.

It's a super clean way to do it and seems to work fine... But that's just like... my opinion, man.

Dann
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Thanks for the input Dan, I think I'll keep me sexy oil line
Hmmm.
Old Mar 28, 2018 | 10:51 AM
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I think the oil source was not filtered, the new built engine and head must gave some debris and probably that caused the partial blockage that killed the turbo.

The classic oil source is better in a sense that it is after the filter, that is the only pro as far as I know for now.

800$ turbo dead.
Next please

allready ordered
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Old Mar 28, 2018 | 10:52 AM
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Well, and as you were told for 5 pages, it has better flow. That's also a pro.
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As far as I tested the flow is now issue.
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Old Mar 28, 2018 | 11:07 AM
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Well there we have it. its not a problem. Put the new turbo in and leave all the other stuff just like you had it. Do it for science.

Backing out now, I dont want this retardation to spread to my brain.
Old Mar 28, 2018 | 11:09 AM
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Works fine. My turbo is trashed because of it, but it works fine.

Oh ok.
Old Mar 28, 2018 | 11:14 AM
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you guys still haven't figured out that he's special?

The feed line is not his only problem. in fact, it's probably the least of his problems.
Old Mar 28, 2018 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Works fine. My turbo is trashed because of it, but it works fine.

Oh ok.
As I wrote, there was a blockage in the restrictor, the flow is fine from the head, I tested it.
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