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Forrest95M 02-09-2016 05:54 PM

95m goes kinda fast for kinda cheap
 
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So around 8 months ago I bought a 95m for a fairly hearty price, not cheap but hey m-tax :hatecat: , this is me trying to go boost for cheap.
First step was engine management, I could have band aided but I wanted to be an MS baller, I know people hate gen 1 megasquirts, especially the DIY kits. Picked up an ms1 standalone from on here for 200$, trying to demod it and rebuild it is an a$$, but i kinda like electronics so it equals out.
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Spent another 40$ on cables and 40$ on a stimulator, should be here tonight!

Next I scooped up four supra 7mge injectors for 35$, work great I think, should be 305, not running any extra ordinary boost levels

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Was going to try a k03 diy setup but when a 300$ cash option for an ebay t3 arrived i couldn't pass up. For 300$ got an intercooler, turbo, piping, down pipe and some other use full stuff.

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Easiest turbo to clock..ever
and thats where i stand now, ilovetacotaco should be seen soon. Somewhere inbetween this i got an innovate mtx-l wideband for 150$ thanks to amazon :bowrofl:

Forrest95M 02-21-2016 09:43 PM

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Update, wired car in for ms1, can't figure out why it's only running on 2 cylinders. Hopefully I can figure this out. Parents think I've some how turned my car into a roller by pulling the stock ECU out. Any way picked up an act 4 puck unsprung clutch

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I do love tacotaco

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Going to get the car running Na, do injectors then big cho cho stuff.

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Fmic mounting
More to come hopefully when my car isn't a 0.9 L, thank God I still can take the bus to highschool

Scaxx 02-21-2016 11:38 PM

I appreciate the fact you're in highschool and you're not slamming your car to the ground. Keep it up.

Forrest95M 02-22-2016 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Scaxx (Post 1309839)
I appreciate the fact you're in highschool and you're not slamming your car to the ground. Keep it up.

I couldn't bring myself to even consider ricelands

Forrest95M 02-22-2016 05:37 PM

Got the car up and running on all 4, then I believe the head gasket then proceeded to blow. More "while youre in there mods" ��

TwoTone 02-25-2016 08:42 AM

What grade are you in? I'm a Junior and I'm doing my clutch then putting my turbo kit on. Freaking awesome build dude

Forrest95M 02-26-2016 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by TwoTone (Post 1310963)
What grade are you in? I'm a Junior and I'm doing my clutch then putting my turbo kit on. Freaking awesome build dude

Junior

New radiator will be bought soon. Car is running on bigger injectors, from what I read I should be able to run 10-12 psi which is enough for now. New rota concaves and 205 federals should be coming soon too

shuiend 02-27-2016 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Forrest95M (Post 1311515)
Junior

New radiator will be bought soon. Car is running on bigger injectors, from what I read I should be able to run 10-12 psi which is enough for now. New rota concaves and 205 federals should be coming soon too

Those injectors won't get you anywhere near 10-12psi.

Forrest95M 02-27-2016 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1311566)
Those injectors won't get you anywhere near 10-12psi.

Could they see me to 200 whp with a professional tune, I know they max out at 85% duty cycle. How much boost could I run reliably with them?

Forrest95M 02-27-2016 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Forrest95M (Post 1311567)
Could they see me to 200 whp with a professional tune, I know they max out at 85% duty cycle. How much boost could I run reliably with them?

scratch that, I know the answer already is no. Do it buy rx8 injectors and run? Or fuel pump and fmu to get desired pressure? What would you do?

shuiend 02-27-2016 01:05 PM

I would buy some flow force injectors. Not worth spending any time or energy on anything less then ev14 injectors. Been there, done that, wasting money for on shitty is not worth it.

Forrest95M 02-27-2016 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1311599)
I would buy some flow force injectors. Not worth spending any time or energy on anything less then ev14 injectors. Been there, done that, wasting money for on shitty is not worth it.

its tempting, but is there any other way around it? I want 200ish rwhp and that's it. ill probably stay there for a long time, also would the ev14's even be worth installing on a stock fuel pump? Sorry, I hate to ask for advice and not like the answer

shuiend 02-27-2016 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Forrest95M (Post 1311600)
its tempting, but is there any other way around it? I want 200ish rwhp and that's it. ill probably stay there for a long time, also would the ev14's even be worth installing on a stock fuel pump? Sorry, I hate to ask for advice and not like the answer

You are running an ms1. Idle control alone on that sucks, especially if you have ac. You want the best injectors you can get. You can diy the mustang injectors and save some money if you want. No you don't need to change out the fuel pump. I mean you can spend $75-100 on rx7 injectors, then another $100 sending them out to get cleaned. You will be into them for nearly $200 which is slightly less then diy ev14s. You will also idle at 12:1 afr to have your anywhere idle anywhere near smooth. I have ran stock injectors, rx7 injectors, rc550 injectors, dw1000, flowforce injectors, and id1000's. I won't touch anything less then ev14 injectors. It's not worth the time, money, or hassle. Buy good injectors once, never have to worry about them again.

Forrest95M 02-27-2016 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1311604)
You are running an ms1. Idle control alone on that sucks, especially if you have ac. You want the best injectors you can get. You can diy the mustang injectors and save some money if you want. No you don't need to change out the fuel pump. I mean you can spend $75-100 on rx7 injectors, then another $100 sending them out to get cleaned. You will be into them for nearly $200 which is slightly less then diy ev14s. You will also idle at 12:1 afr to have your anywhere idle anywhere near smooth. I have ran stock injectors, rx7 injectors, rc550 injectors, dw1000, flowforce injectors, and id1000's. I won't touch anything less then ev14 injectors. It's not worth the time, money, or hassle. Buy good injectors once, never have to worry about them again.

Alright you got me. You guys are really good at making other people spend money.

shuiend 02-27-2016 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Forrest95M (Post 1311611)
Alright you got me. You guys are really good at making other people spend money.

If you had any idea of how much I have spent on my primary miata over the past 11 years you would cry.

You have the eBay t3 with the v-band outlet correct? If so it will require cutting of the rear shelf to make it work.

Forrest95M 02-27-2016 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1311612)
If you had any idea of how much I have spent on my primary miata over the past 11 years you would cry.

You have the eBay t3 with the v-band outlet correct? If so it will require cutting of the rear shelf to make it work.

I already know that. Even if I don't like that I still have an external waste gate and a regular flange and down pipe

sonofthehill 02-27-2016 04:45 PM

The Flow Force injectors have and are performing flawlessly for my car at 200+ whp. They really are the best option for the least amount of money unless you plan to make baller power on e85. Then you might want to consider real ID's.
My car idles between 14.4 & 14.8 and I run the stock fuel pump.

curly 02-27-2016 05:22 PM

For as cheap as this build is, I'd hate to ignore RX8 injectors they work great to 200hp, and can be had as low as $130s. But I think the max Ive heard of is 225, so not much wiggle room. You might also try to find "that guy" in the classifieds who's looking to get rid of his recently cleaned RC550s for even cheaper. Or just get the FF units.

Forrest95M 02-27-2016 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1311628)
For as cheap as this build is, I'd hate to ignore RX8 injectors they work great to 200hp, and can be had as low as $130s. But I think the max Ive heard of is 225, so not much wiggle room. You might also try to find "that guy" in the classifieds who's looking to get rid of his recently cleaned RC550s for even cheaper. Or just get the FF units.

That's the thing, I'm never planning on using corn fuel or getting anywhere close to where I need 600cc injectors, I was considering using an FMU but I bet ms1 wont like that. Hard decisions

curly 02-27-2016 05:59 PM

K.I.S.S. Get either FF, rx8, or some pre-cleaned rx7/RC injectors.


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