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turbofan 07-14-2015 12:30 AM

You probably won't be able to notice the difference, but honestly I would use the JDM Sport one. Fins inside look MUCH better.

Both suck but both should do the job.

aidandj 07-14-2015 12:37 AM

I love my egay intercooler. Intake temps are always quite manageable.

deezums 07-14-2015 12:47 AM

If you are going to use either use the shitty top one, it's a delta fin inspired one so it'll flow a lot better than the bar/plate one.

Being a brand whore to a Chinese rebranding factory is a terrible life's ambition.

aidandj 07-14-2015 02:44 AM

<p>Some quality noob bashing going on. And he just keeps coming back from more. You will do well here steve.</p>

typicalsteve 07-14-2015 02:53 AM

Oh I just saw these other comments. Installed the Mishi IC and the car actually blew up. Like, literally just burst into flames. It was just that bad of a unit I guess.

Braineack 07-14-2015 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by typicalsteve (Post 1248681)
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1436836100

I like the Mishimoto one because it is brand new, doesn't have any bent fins, and is heavier. I like the JDM Sport one because the core looks a lot more dense... I'm at a loss.

WHICH ONE DO I USE?! :vash:


wtf. are the fins not even louvered like the JDM one?

both are poor, but I'd stick with the delta core tube&fin beat to hell IC over the non-IC.



Vlad this might flow better inside, but I'd rather have 5psi of pressure drop and 80% efficiency than no pressure loss from air passing through a pipe with slots and 10% efficiency.

concealer404 07-14-2015 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by typicalsteve (Post 1248691)
Cool, thanks for the info as always guys! I'll be using the Mishi one for now because I'm a brand whore and it will probably perform better than the JDM Sport one. Maybe I'll get the better Ebay one that you linked to some day when I get bored again


This made my fucking day.

hi_im_sean 07-14-2015 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1248744)
<p>Some quality noob bashing going on. And he just keeps coming back from more. You will do well here steve.</p>

I honestly thought we are going easy on him. Ive seen other newbs make less stupid claims and get their asses reamed.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1248758)
Vlad this might flow better inside, but I'd rather have 5psi of pressure drop and 80% efficiency than no pressure loss from air passing through a pipe with slots and 10% efficiency.

That was my thinking.

typicalsteve 07-14-2015 09:48 AM

I kinda just like watching people get so passionate about some of these things... lol

hi_im_sean 07-14-2015 09:49 AM

We are idealists

turbofan 07-14-2015 01:01 PM

we *think* we are idealists. But here we are, telling him he bought the wrong eBay intercooler and suggesting he should have bought a DIFFERENT eBay intercooler. Just ONE of us (you, sean, in post #135) quietly suggested that he get a true, quality, name-brand intercooler, and nobody recognized it.

We are mf'in cheapskates.

concealer404 07-14-2015 01:04 PM

Screw an intercooler. E-Cool, bro.

Girz0r 07-14-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1248843)
Screw an intercooler. E-Cool, bro.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1436893734 :party:

aidandj 07-14-2015 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1248842)
<br />We are mf'in cheapskates.

<br />I didn't buy brake pads the other day because autozone only had the 35$ rear pads not the 20$ pads.

hi_im_sean 07-14-2015 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1248842)
we *think* we are idealists. But here we are, telling him he bought the wrong eBay intercooler and suggesting he should have bought a DIFFERENT eBay intercooler. Just ONE of us (you, sean, in post #135) quietly suggested that he get a true, quality, name-brand intercooler, and nobody recognized it.

We are mf'in cheapskates.

Ok, let me rephrase that.

We are cheap ass idealists :rofl:

Also, as Vlad pointed out, very little(if any?) empirical data exist on any of these egay coolers. Even the one we tout is based on anecdote from visual appearance.

typicalsteve 07-14-2015 01:38 PM

I will post some data later in regards to IATs using the two intercoolers I have and then we all sing Kumbaya after my car blows up again from using the Mishi one.

hornetball 07-14-2015 01:59 PM

in4 car explosion youtube.

typicalsteve 07-14-2015 11:04 PM

Wasn't able to do testing with the new IC tonight due to other obligations. No explosive motors tonight ;(

m2cupcar 07-16-2015 08:24 AM

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Way back, JasonC swapped out his AVO barNplate for a TDR tube/fin.


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 138053)
Results:
- spoolup, no change
- topend, slight discernible advantage to AVO (~2%, could be meas error, AEMlog acceleration function)
- temp rise during a 2nd gear run: 4°C vs. 6°C, advantage AVO i/c, BUT the temps drop back down more quickly with the TDR. The AVO appears to have more thermal mass but heatsoak, the TDR airflow cools it down quick. Peak temps on the track, unknown.
-Pressure loss:
TDR is better by 0 to 0.5 psi
2.5 psi pressure loss at 10 psi of manifold pressure, est 240 whp

I picked up an eBay (EMUSA) delta fin (thought Brainy got the same design) at that time for improved exchanger flow (I run AC). The core/tube ends look like typicalsteve's eBay/JDMsport on the end, but just past the entry you can see the fins have vertical, angled slits that dip into the air flow. I wonder if the JDMSport is not the same- you just can't see it in the photo. :dunno:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...2&d=1437049190
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1437049190

typicalsteve 07-17-2015 01:25 PM

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m2cupcar, thanks for the detailed response! I will be doing testing on the intercooler this weekend.

My 180 tstat and gasket from BEGI two days ago. My box of seals, gaskets, and hoses came from Rosenthal yesterday. I will finally be able to get this clutch in- Woo!

I installed these guys last night. The car actually doesn't stop at all now. Like, I'll press on the brakes and nothing happens. Been having to use my e-brake for now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1437153906
I'm blaming the holes in the rotors for the stopping issue. And they look terrible. So


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