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brgracer 01-02-2009 03:51 PM

brgracer's build thread
 
Yes, I know I have been seriously MIA, but wife, two kids, and too many projects will do that to you. I still have a long way to go, but figured that I would at least start the build thread, and yes, I promise that there is a turbo in there eventually.

I was in the process of rebuilding a motor and a new turbo setup for my current brg when I negotiated a deal on a much cleaner shell with an AWR widebody kit already installed, fresh paint, and some other goodies. The shell came with a gutted interior and stock drivetrain as well as r-pack lip, 1.8 brakes, chassis braces, manual steering rack, and 1.8 open diff.
http://i41.tinypic.com/1zb9dtu.jpg


So I started by pulling the stock drivetrain.
http://i43.tinypic.com/xkpoj6.jpg


Cleaned up rusty area underneath brake booster and installed the built shortblock and a 6-speed trans. Built shortblock consists of 0.020" overbore, wiseco pistons 8.5:1 comp ratio (ceramic top coat, dry film side coat, oil shedding bottom coat), CAT forged rods, ACL bearings, balanced rotating assembly, billet OP gears, shimmed oil pump, ARP head studs, cometic HG, and Clutchnet 3x PP with 6 puck disk. Also installed RX-7 diff with cryo'ed 3.63 R/P as well as suspension stuff (Tein Flex, FM front sway).
http://i43.tinypic.com/303k6ee.jpg


Then installed the worked head and thicker alum rad. Worked head consists of ported and ceramic coated intake/exhaust, ceramic coated combustion chambers, Supertech valvetrain with MS solid lifters and shim under bucket conversion, 5-angle valve job, Fidanza cam gears, Integral stage 3 cams. With the billet OP, balanced rotating assembly, and stiffer valve springs, I should be able to spin to around 8500rpm.
http://i42.tinypic.com/1248nyd.jpg

Since then, I have test run the engine on stock ECU, then wired in COPS and MS and did another test run with success.

brgracer 01-02-2009 03:58 PM

Then it got hella cold so started working on the interior. Car came as below.
http://i43.tinypic.com/10mr9rm.jpg


Removed dash and cleaned up some MS/gauge wiring.
http://i42.tinypic.com/r0a49t.jpg


Installed AEM boost/WB gauges in a-pillar, cleaned up the interior, insulated the tranny tunnel, and started installing a black interior.
http://i41.tinypic.com/4q5p3.jpg

Trent 01-02-2009 04:13 PM

nice. what spring rates did you get for the Teins?

slutz4 01-02-2009 06:11 PM

nice! Ive been waiting to see updates on this car

hustler 01-02-2009 06:15 PM

i love the interior conversion, unfortunately both of my miatas have tan interior. Those fender flares look like a ball-less scrotum. However, it looks like we now have two, built turbo 6-speed brg's on here.

nice radiator:
http://i39.tinypic.com/xpdduv.jpg

kotomile 01-02-2009 06:30 PM

You're going to have one immensely awesome Miata the way this is going! Since you now have a wider car, what sort of decision have you made about wheels/tires?

Ben 01-02-2009 06:54 PM

Looking pretty awesome. I'm jealous of your 3.63 clutch LSD and think I need to build me one.

brgracer 01-02-2009 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by supersaiyan93 (Post 348058)
nice. what spring rates did you get for the Teins?

I upped the fronts to 9kg and left the rear at 6kg. I was tempted to run 10kg in the front, but figured that I'd try the 9kg first. I'm running an FM front sway and stock rear sway.



Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 348101)
You're going to have one immensely awesome Miata the way this is going! Since you now have a wider car, what sort of decision have you made about wheels/tires?

Will probably put on a set of 15x8 or 16x8, 0 offset SM/XXR wheels for now with 225/45/15 or 225/40/16 RS2 rubber since that's the widest non r-comp tire for 15/16" as the 245 tires available don't really translate to much wider on an 8" wheel (diff for a 9" wheel). Leaning toward 15" because there is a much bigger selection of tires. Aside from really pricey wheels (think 3k+ a set), I haven't found any other 15x8 or 16x8 wheels with a really low offset that will fill the flares without spacers. In the long run, I'll probably end up with 15x9 6ULs with r-comps when I become a better driver for the track, but I just don't feel like running 36mm spacers at the moment. To be completely honest, settling for the cheaper SM/XXR wheels as a hold me over until either I convince myself to pony up for a killer set of wheels or hoping for the slim chance that Emilio may one day make a low offset batch of 6ULs for those of us with flares. :)


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 348107)
Looking pretty awesome. I'm jealous of your 3.63 clutch LSD and think I need to build me one.

Ironic coming from the man with the only set of 3.3 Mazda gears that I know. I would have traded you long ago. ;)

Fireindc 01-02-2009 10:03 PM

/drool..

Amazing build, truly top notch.

johndoe 01-02-2009 10:21 PM

I'm seriously jealous.Wish I had the time/space for a build like that. Looks awesome.

18psi 01-02-2009 10:23 PM

good stuff...those flares will need some serious rim/tire combo

Ben 01-03-2009 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by brgracer (Post 348138)
Ironic coming from the man with the only set of 3.3 Mazda gears that I know.

Yeah I'm just thinking that the 3.3 isn't as appropriate with the new car since I'm no longer interested in going for 400 whp. I'm thinking more about just doing some serious headwork and being happy with immediate spool and 300whp (limit of 2560).

brgracer 01-08-2009 12:05 PM

Flipside IM pics. It should be getting here next week so I can install it. Pics are from his test mockup to make sure everything fit correctly. :) He also clocked the mustang TB so the stock throttle cable would be routed under the IM for a cleaner install.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1zyzlnr.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2v28mxx.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/20a99p4.jpg

jayc72 01-08-2009 12:09 PM

How much for the IM?

y8s 01-08-2009 12:13 PM

*boner*

NA6C-Guy 01-08-2009 12:41 PM

:jerkit: This is looking awsome. Keep the updates coming.

sbrian2 01-08-2009 04:23 PM

That intake is badass! :drool:

Braineack 01-08-2009 04:39 PM

Tom, I wish i was you.

patsmx5 01-08-2009 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 348285)
Yeah I'm just thinking that the 3.3 isn't as appropriate with the new car since I'm no longer interested in going for 400 whp. I'm thinking more about just doing some serious headwork and being happy with immediate spool and 300whp (limit of 2560).

WI. :)

I must say: Badass build. Looking great. Intake mani looks especially purrdy. ;) That's mostly what I've been invisioning for building my own manifold. I'm sure that one's Alh-ewh-min-e-um though.

Braineack 01-08-2009 05:56 PM

aluminum? yes.

18psi 01-08-2009 07:20 PM

that intake mani made my day....brb need a towel

Ben 01-08-2009 07:37 PM

Oh my!!

Remote IAC?

neogenesis2004 01-08-2009 08:03 PM

Doesn't Paul run without any IAC? Shit I ran my first motor on MS without IAC the entire time before I blew it because I had no idea wtf "that thing below the tb" was lol.

brgracer 01-09-2009 10:21 AM

I'll get pics of the runners and plenum after the IM arrives for you guys. I will probably run an IAC with the mustang TB.

As for pricing, I got prototype pricing, but talked with Rob and he said an IM would be $600 + shipping if you provide a core stock IM.

patsmx5 01-09-2009 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 350848)
Doesn't Paul run without any IAC? Shit I ran my first motor on MS without IAC the entire time before I blew it because I had no idea wtf "that thing below the tb" was lol.

I don't run one on my 99'. Idles fine when cold if I tune it a bit rich, and idles a bit high when warm. I'm seriously thinking about putting a vacuum line Tee'd off the manifold to a solenoid or valve I can manually switch to idle up when cold, and then turn off for a normal idle when hot.

Toddcod 01-09-2009 11:29 AM

Looks good, I'm still surprised you went black instead of the tan. I really like the tan on green. But I do hate the stickey dash in the summer.

But the black looks good!

Braineack 01-09-2009 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 351104)
I don't run one on my 99'. Idles fine when cold if I tune it a bit rich, and idles a bit high when warm. I'm seriously thinking about putting a vacuum line Tee'd off the manifold to a solenoid or valve I can manually switch to idle up when cold, and then turn off for a normal idle when hot.

running a remote oem idle valve would be incredibly easy.


Originally Posted by Toddcod (Post 351135)
Looks good, I'm still surprised you went black instead of the tan. I really like the tan on green.

But the black looks good! And I'm sure someone will buy the tan for $$$$ to add to the project.

the black looks bomb digity. It's the best combo I've seen in a miata. I sent a picture of one to Tom, and the next day he was sourcing interior parts for the swap.

brgracer 01-16-2009 01:36 PM

Pics of inside of new IM:

http://i41.tinypic.com/21j6kit.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/apijwh.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/aoq1as.jpg

brgracer 04-23-2009 07:58 PM

I know there is never an excuse for not working on the car, but between work, family, selling a house, and buying a house, I've been pretty busy.

Anyway, some mild progress. Turbo clocked to correct position and all fittings attached. Manifold, turbo, EWG, and DP bolted up and to the car. Able to get the oil feed line attached as well as one of the coolant lines. It's a bitch to get a hand/wrench into some of the tight spaces. Also note the one pic, the manifold is below the level of the VC so fits with ease and not even close to the hood (for those of you who thought that it looked too high). Also, ignore the yellow VC, basically a placeholder to keep crap out of the head until I get the cut VC powercoated. Next project is the IM!
http://i40.tinypic.com/5oytd1.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2378f8.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2zgarsy.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/11rzqk9.jpg

Ben 04-23-2009 08:21 PM

Wow Tom, really looks great.

cjernigan 04-23-2009 08:25 PM

Sure does look awesome, sounds like you have one heck of a busy life going on outside of this project as well. You going to have it ready to drive this summer?

y8s 04-23-2009 08:37 PM

so hoping to have a reliably running car to come to the dyno with. adaptronic ALMOST kicked my ass. I wanna be there to see your awesome power victory.

Pitt 04-24-2009 07:55 AM

WOW! This is awesome!

BradC 04-24-2009 08:28 AM

Badass man.

Love to see it in person some day.

hustler 04-24-2009 08:37 AM

fantesticle!

TurboTim 04-24-2009 11:31 AM

Wow, do you actually plan to have it at the dyno day? That'd be cool.

Looks good.

Braineack 04-24-2009 11:35 AM

I don't think it will be ready unfortunately, close though.

Mach929 04-24-2009 11:42 AM

damn that sucks, tom you can git er done!

brgracer 04-24-2009 02:50 PM

Yeah, I wanted it to have it done for dyno day, but no dice. Just don't want to rush things and do it half-assed. Plus, I need a few more hose ends/fittings/etc..., and pretty much everything ships from warehouses in CA so 5-day wait. Sucks....it's always the little crap that holds you up sometimes.

Stripes 04-24-2009 03:15 PM

What do you need? I have plenty of leftover hoses, fittings etc from my build. I'd even give you a hand this weekend to get this 3 year project done.





Originally Posted by brgracer (Post 400100)
Yeah, I wanted it to have it done for dyno day, but no dice. Just don't want to rush things and do it half-assed. Plus, I need a few more hose ends/fittings/etc..., and pretty much everything ships from warehouses in CA so 5-day wait. Sucks....it's always the little crap that holds you up sometimes.


Mach929 04-24-2009 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Stripes (Post 400122)
What do you need? I have plenty of leftover hoses, fittings etc from my build. I'd even give you a hand this weekend to get this 3 year project done.


+1 make a list of everything you need and maybe we can collectively rummage through our stuff and see what we can come up with

brgracer 05-01-2009 11:48 PM

Thanks for the offer you guys, but need crap like odd -AN fittings. Anyway, got more stuffs done...

Billet vacuum block for IM.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2vnqrt3.jpg

YAY! IM, 70mm mustang TB, and TunerToys fuel rail mounted. All vac lines as well as throttle cable mount/linkage under the IM for a clean install look. mustang TB clocked for the under the IM throttle cable.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2ngwgpe.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2h3wzt0.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2u40glw.jpg

brgracer 05-01-2009 11:51 PM

Finally got the cut VC powercoated to match the IM. A little more subtle than the yellow.
http://i41.tinypic.com/1z2q0wm.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/luqth.jpg

Teaser on wheels/tires. 225/45/15 Hankook RS3s.
http://i41.tinypic.com/34xkg9g.jpg

18psi 05-02-2009 12:03 AM

wow. so very clean. the black im/vc is pure secks

Cspence 05-02-2009 09:11 AM

GOD DAMN....that motor is a work of art!

cornercarvermx5 05-03-2009 08:13 PM

man i wish my engine bay looked that clean

NoMiEzMX-5 05-15-2009 09:03 AM

more pics of the wheels and body please11

neogenesis2004 05-15-2009 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 403368)
GOD DAMN....that motor is a work of art!

I'll build you a replica for the low price of $7k.

BracedEunos 06-28-2009 11:54 PM

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Interesting....any updates? Its looking pretty similar to mine, except there will be a 62 cuin blower on the other side...

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neogenesis2004 06-29-2009 12:14 AM

He has been busy closing on a new house and moving. So nothing really new yet. I think its pretty close though.

ZX-Tex 06-30-2009 07:27 PM

Yeah seriously that is a really good looking engine brgracer.

SeePlusPlus 06-30-2009 08:02 PM

I've been reading through your build thread and I must say your intake manifold is pure sex. I was wondering if you could help provide a link, or some information that would aid me in the purchase of the manifold.

Does it throw off your tuning significantly, or have you not had the chance to run it yet?

Thanks

neogenesis2004 06-30-2009 08:14 PM

Its still in an untuned state, see my previous post.

BracedEunos 07-07-2009 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by SeePlusPlus (Post 425482)
I've been reading through your build thread and I must say your intake manifold is pure sex. I was wondering if you could help provide a link, or some information that would aid me in the purchase of the manifold.

Does it throw off your tuning significantly, or have you not had the chance to run it yet?

Thanks

You can buy the manifold from Welcome to Flipside. Rob is the guy who you want to speak to. He will answer any questions for you. Its an awesome unit that is perfect in every respect.

I have the same manifold except it is ported out quite a bit more. I just got the car started last week so I am still adjusting my idle. There is much more of a difference from a cold start to a hot restart. I blame this because you loose all the valves and IAC that bring heat to a cold start. I am also not running a TPS or a IAC. This gives a horrible idle. If you buy this piece and put on a Mustang Throttle Body then you have to adapt or use new IAC and TPS components.

I am attaching a video of a cold start just after the first time I have ever started the motor after a full build. Still need to change my fuel values. I have since got it to sit much more calm. Sorry for the horrid quality.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...h_DSCF4219.jpg

-Anthony

brgracer 07-16-2009 02:39 PM

She RUNS!!!! Granted I need to take care of some small stuff like heat shielding stuff so things don't melt and tuning, but she idles and drives with no leaks! Almost there....too bad I'm moving next week so I might not get too much done soon, but I am working on it.

A few quick pics with new wheels as well. And before the peanut gallery pipes up, there will be spacers to push the rears out to fill the flares better, AND the car has not settled with the new suspension yet, hence the fender gap which will be adjusted later.

http://i29.tinypic.com/28ul6k9.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/rsqxeh.jpg

brgracer 07-29-2009 02:44 PM

Finally moved. Have lots of unpacking to do, but hopefully will get to tune the car and then start a garage "build thread." Woo!

http://i28.tinypic.com/289kiyo&s.jpg

m2cupcar 07-29-2009 03:39 PM

Wow- there's some ceiling height there. Congrats on the move. Next post of the car in the build thread will have the car on a lift? ;)

TurboTim 07-29-2009 04:16 PM

Wow, that is some ceiling! Lift!!!!

I'm slightly jealous of that height. Congrats on the move Tom! Where did you move to?

brgracer 07-30-2009 02:56 PM

Yeah, I measured everything, and a lift is eventually in the plans, but I need to do some stuff like raise the garage door on that side first. That, and the garage flooring which goes in next week! Pics to follow next week.

Tim, I moved closer to you. Don't know if you consider that a good or bad thing. ;) I'm right outside Ambler, PA.

oops2low 07-30-2009 03:02 PM

excellent work. im diggin the new bat cave. a lift is deff in order!


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