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Old 04-20-2016, 09:32 AM   #161
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Its about acceptable practice, not "this can theoretically work in a vacuum"
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:01 AM   #162
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Part of me thinks hes trolling, but those are real pics....

So ill bite
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...0/#post1315792

Spent less than you, including torsen, and I have a real manifold, rods only build, and....
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:24 AM   #163
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he's definitely trolling, he's even kinda proud of it.
I think the most amusing part is that when it is all said and done, he'll end up with a pile of scrap and a ton of cash in the garbage, and realize he could have already saved enough cash for half an engine build, but has to start over and has neither a good setup nor a built engine.

but this is way more entertaining
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Old 04-20-2016, 11:24 AM   #164
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This is ****** hilarious. $5k isn't even close to a budget build. I thiiiink I was under 3k driving on the road turbo'd (that number has since skyrocketed because track car lul)
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:21 PM   #165
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I haven't talked to anyone who has a solid build under 8k honestly. Most people pay 4-5k for the car alone. But Sean your build is mint. I don't have access to a mill or lathe, 240v, a good welder, air compressor, or more than a 10x10 storage unit unless I go out of my way to a friends. Otherwise I would like to do what you did. In my opinion 5k is pretty decent for not using fueling bandaids and whatnot. I'm trolling with the fittings and whatnot but in all honesty they'll work fine and I laugh at most people on here for caring too much. I'll be surprised if I have to replace anything except the turbo or manifold.
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:25 PM   #166
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our only fault is that we care too much
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:30 PM   #167
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I know that you guys are knowledgeable for the most part, but the fact that someone can be so furious about how something gets done cracks me up. As long as it works it works. Way more fun that way if you ask me!
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:34 PM   #168
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psh, not for long suutututu.
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It doesn't work. You suck at budget, fabbing, and everything else. I don't know of anyone angry, we're all just busy laughing at you.

Now go crack the manifold. I bet you can't even make it a thousand miles.


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Old 04-20-2016, 12:39 PM   #170
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I know that you guys are knowledgeable for the most part, but the fact that someone can be so furious about how something gets done cracks me up. As long as it works it works. Way more fun that way if you ask me!
Disappointed, amused, disgusted, maybe even mildly annoyed, but no one is furious. When that line lets go, pukes oil all over the road, and causes an accident, then maybe someone will be furious.
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:49 PM   #171
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I'd still laugh, but I'm weird like that

There are plenty of builds way under the 8k mark. You can get an MKturbo setup for like $1500 or something? Then an ECU, injectors, clutch, ebay intercooler.

ECU: You can build an ms1 for dirt freaking cheap.
Injectors: You can get some rx7's for like <$100.
Ebay intercooler setup can be done for <$200.
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:56 PM   #172
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My build....

Ebay turbo, non-shitty manifold, intercooler, and BOV. Summit exhaust bends for intercooler and exhaust, magnaflow 5x11x22, v-bands, hangers, couplers, oil lines, FM1 clutch and flywheel, 4.10 torsen swap, MS2, sequential fuel, rx8 injectors, mtx-l, and a boost gauge.

I spent $2600 total, for all that ****. Not even all at once. Out the gate, no clutch or torsen I was reliably turbo'd for $1700 bucks. Price breakdown for all my **** is at the beginning of my thread.

I just drove my car 400 miles yesterday, I'd drive it across the country without worry. Ultra reliable, ultra cheap.

Spend more than 3K on ebay **** and you've done it wrooooooong.




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Old 04-20-2016, 12:57 PM   #173
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Spend more than 3K on ebay **** and you've done it wrooooooong.
Unless you are running a sequential turbo setup. Using all ebay parts...

Though pat might have even gotten under the 3k mark.
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Old 04-20-2016, 01:01 PM   #174
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I'd still laugh, but I'm weird like that

There are plenty of builds way under the 8k mark. You can get an MKturbo setup for like $1500 or something? Then an ECU, injectors, clutch, ebay intercooler.

ECU: You can build an ms1 for dirt freaking cheap.
Injectors: You can get some rx7's for like <$100.
Ebay intercooler setup can be done for <$200.
I am pretty sure most of my customers end up between $3000-$4000 to turbo their cars, not including the price of the car. The majority follow the same steps and use the same parts overall, most parts I recommend are a bit higher quality and a bit more expensive then you have to spend if you want to be super cheap.

1. MKTurbo setup and oil line kit - $1685
2. FM1 clutch - $350
3. FlowForce Injectors - $300
4. MS of some sort - $500-$1150
5. Widebane either MXT-L or UEGO - $175
6. Vibrant 12800 Intercooler - $161
7. IC piping and such - $200
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And that is a legit build right there. It will idle and run perfectly, make as much power as the stock block can handle. And be reliable.
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Old 04-20-2016, 01:20 PM   #176
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most of us are boredom-posting from work
I love it when people think we are actually mad any time we post negative comments

oh yeah SOOOO MADDDD BROOO
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SO FURIOUS
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His $4853 number includes $1600 for the car, right?
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Out the gate, no clutch or torsen ...
How much abuse did the stock clutch take? Any guesses at power level? I've been thinking about just bolting my turbo on and seeing if my clutch will hold for a little while.
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How much abuse did the stock clutch take? Any guesses at power level? I've been thinking about just bolting my turbo on and seeing if my clutch will hold for a little while.
The stock clutch in my 94 started slipping around 6psi on my Begi setup with a 2554.
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