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Old 04-14-2014, 12:54 AM   #101
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Was pretty much ready to rage quit on this car after tonight. I'll see how things go tomorrow; if no better than tonight it may just stay on jackstands for a while.

Wrapped things up on the car yesterday around 8:00pm. Made a new IC pipe that would work better with the reroute rather than modifying the aluminum rad. Installed my clutch slave and SS line, bled that. Brake pads and rotors at all 4 corners, and a bunch of other stuff.

Pulled it out of the garage after jump starting it. Drove it around but then went to burn in TunerStudio at which point the car died. Battery was the deadest. Bought a new battery.

It was all going fine until today at 4pm when I noticed I had very little brake pressure and the low brake fluid light came on. Headed home to see what was wrong with it and get more fluid until what I was almost certain was my 5 speed breaking.

To top it off my FM downpipe broke just after the flex portion.

It sounded like marbles coming from the trans in 2nd and 3rd, and a little bit in 1st but I was pretty close to home where I wasn't pushing the car at all. And I realized later that I still had perfectly good driveability in those gears, other than the sound of marbles. Thought I'd drop the trans and have a look except I'm stuck on the two top bolts and decided to walk away from the car for the night before I ruined my back anymore.

If I don't have any luck tomorrow I'll just do the tried and true way of pulling the entire motor/trans together.

I feel like its not my transmission that is blown up but rather maybe a flywheel bolt backed out. I just hope my clutch isn't destroyed.

I'd post pics but I've been too busy and frustrated to even bother taking pictures.
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Sorry for the bad luck Paul, I feel you on wanting to rage quit, it is always something.

If your 5 speed is broken I've got two 5 speeds sitting in my garage. I can give you one for very cheap if you'd like.

Well, I would, but you are in Canuckistania, so shipping might hurt yah.
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Sorry for the bad luck Paul, I feel you on wanting to rage quit, it is always something.

If your 5 speed is broken I've got two 5 speeds sitting in my garage. I can give you one for very cheap if you'd like.

Well, I would, but you are in Canuckistania, so shipping might hurt yah.
Thanks Jeff! I'll get in touch if it is in fact my 5 speed, I have a shipping address in Michigan for sending parts to. I found one locally for $250 but seeing that I want to TII swap the drivetrain this winter I'd rather not spend that much if possible.

Hopefully tomorrow goes better otherwise I am ready to rage quit for a while and just drive my awesome grand marquis daily, at least it doesn't eat at my wallet as badly lol

Edit: I kind of had this coming for me though since bad things come in threes. Blew the motor on my daily civic last Friday. Then was driving my brother's fusion but didn't realize he hadn't checked his oil in a very long time, turns out it was very low, and rod knock happened, and now this I guess.
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Thanks Jeff! I'll get in touch if it is in fact my 5 speed, I have a shipping address in Michigan for sending parts to. I found one locally for $250 but seeing that I want to TII swap the drivetrain this winter I'd rather not spend that much if possible.

Hopefully tomorrow goes better otherwise I am ready to rage quit for a while and just drive my awesome grand marquis daily, at least it doesn't eat at my wallet as badly lol
I find just walking away from the car for an hour or two helps you sweat the frustration out a little.

I was ready to do that as well today but I pushed through it.

I can do way better than $250 if you do indeed need it, good luck, probably just a bolt that backed out or maybe you pushed the pilot bearing out when you put the trani back on.
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I'm leaning towards a flywheel bolt backing out but won't know until I get in there. Nothing has been apart in there since last fall when I put it together with the turbo, and that was about 3-5000 miles ago so I don't think it'd be the pilot.

But first things first, I gotta get the trans out of there to begin with lol
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I guess I do have one pic of the car with how it sits now.. well how it sat earlier today before it was broken and back on jack stands

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Boosted smurfs unite! Together we can rule over the faded pink and chipping white cars.

P.S. your luck is ****.
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the most **** lol..

going to make another attempt to get this transmission out now and hopefully see what's going on in there. I'm really not looking forward to reinstalling the trans either. It's so much easier when the motor is out of the car
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I'm about to go into the garage, put my engine on the ground (it's on a stand), bolt on the flywheel/clutch, and then the transmission. I am NOT looking forward to it. I had 4-5 people helping me on an engine-still-in-car-tranny-swap once. Never again.
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Yea, I'm trying to do this solo. So much rage happens. Especially since my back has been bothering me and I apparently have a hernia according to the doctor. It's really not a good time.
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To get to those top two bolts, use a floor jack to tilt the front of the engine upwards. That should get you decent access. Also, get every damn 1/2" extension/wobble adapter that Harbor Freight sells. LOL. Good luck.

Sometimes it's good to walk away for a day or so.
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I'm about to go out to buy a couple of impact wobble adaptors and hopefully get the impact on the top two, since those are the only ones left. Already got it off the ppf to tilt it for some access
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Got the trans out and the clutch off. Flywheel bolts are still in place so its not that, unfortunately. Impact universal joint extensions are your friend!

Does it make sense that it could be the transmission if I could still go into gear and drive fine? Once I let out the clutch in gear it sounded like marbles, the faster I went the faster/louder they got. Once I pressed the clutch pedal they stopped. But, I could still go in every gear perfectly fine.

Looks like I might have to crack the transmission open to see what's going on in there even though I really don't feel like it lol.

Dammit, was really hoping it'd be flywheel bolts.
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How sure are you that the noise was coming from the transmission itself? I read in your earlier post that your downpipe broke, was it not that rattling against something while under load, or something like that?
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Sounds almost exactly like your throwout bearing.

Pushing the clutch in eliminating the sound kinda supporting that theory.
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I cut off the broken part of the downpipe and pulled the car out and it was still making the noise with the downpipe securely in place. I'll take a pic of how the downpipe broke and you'll be able to see it wouldn't be able to rattle around anymore.
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Sounds almost exactly like your throwout bearing.

Pushing the clutch in eliminating the sound kinda supporting that theory.
throwout bearing still looks in good shape.

Hold on, going out there with my camera to get some pics of everything that's going on.

I don't really know what I'm doing when it comes to opening up the trans so if something else is glaringly obvious before I pop open the trans I'd be pretty happy.
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I cut off the broken part of the downpipe and pulled the car out and it was still making the noise with the downpipe securely in place. I'll take a pic of how the downpipe broke and you'll be able to see it wouldn't be able to rattle around anymore.
Just making sure, i've overlooked the simple things before and cost myself a ton of extra trouble.

How do the throw out/pilot bearings feel? Did the transmission rattle in every gear, or just some?
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I was pretty close to home when it started to "rattle" so I didn't get to try 5th. But it did it a bit in first (not as loud or quick but I figure that's because I was going slower), 2nd, and 3rd. Not really in 4th. It also did it in reverse a bit too.

Also, Saturday night I went to do a burnout but it was all clutch and no tires, so once I realized that I stopped but it burnt the clutch enough that it's noticeable in the picture of the disk, but the clutch still grabbed fine from that point until the car was broken the next day, about 5-6 hours of use later. Total the car was out for maybe 7-8 hours of driving (2 of those dealing with stupid charging issues), so I've really gotten to enjoy it a lot so far :suicide:







EDIT: anyone have a clutch alignment tool laying around? I'm not sure where mine ended up and I'll need one to throw it all back together whenever that happens.
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Oof that flywheel looks a little gnarly. I'd get that resurfaced.

Also your pilot bearing looks to be inserted to far in. Shouldn't it be flush rather than inset like that?
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