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triple88a 11-02-2012 05:07 PM

So whats on all the switches? The windows switches i recognize, what are the other ones? I see lock switch there. Whats that for? How about the first one to the left?

thenuge26 11-02-2012 05:27 PM

Looks to me like the one on the left is to bust the welds on your intake.

arbinshire 11-02-2012 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 945855)
I wanted to see if anyone would actually read the toggles. :)

SO! Pricing Information? I've heard 14k being thrown around.

TurboTim 11-02-2012 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by arbinshire (Post 945998)
SO! Pricing Information? I've heard 14k being thrown around.

Complete? That would compete with Factory Five's Epic rear engined tube frame 818! We here :heart: subarus too but I would prefer this miata based kit, all else being equal.

triple88a 11-02-2012 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 945979)
Looks to me like the one on the left is to bust the welds on your intake.

Hmm now that you mention it it does kinda look like a bottle.

psreynol 11-02-2012 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 945972)
So whats on all the switches? The windows switches i recognize, what are the other ones? I see lock switch there. Whats that for? How about the first one to the left?


for the Sema required suspension airbags, and neon ground effects I think.

gfeeley 11-03-2012 12:12 AM

gotta say i wish i was skilled enough and had the time to make such a beautiful car

cordycord 11-03-2012 06:41 PM

NOS, driver and passenger windows, windshield wiper fluid and door locks. :)

18psi 11-03-2012 06:43 PM

That's right ladies, he said NOS:party:

psreynol 11-03-2012 07:27 PM

come on.. you've been teasing us with bad photos of half finished parts and vague suggestions about the release of this car for months. lets get on with it... PLEASE tell us stuff

hochkis 11-03-2012 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 946270)
door locks. :)

Door locks with no doors?

czubaka 11-03-2012 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by hochkis (Post 946279)
Door locks with no doors?

Power windows with no windows
Windshield washer with no windshield
Nitrous with no nitrous

cordycord 11-03-2012 08:17 PM

Still coming down from SEMA
 

Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 946276)
come on.. you've been teasing us with bad photos of half finished parts and vague suggestions about the release of this car for months. lets get on with it... PLEASE tell us stuff

BARELY PULLED THE SEMA CAR TOGETHER IN TIME. Seeing that I walked around SEMA last year with sketches of the Catfish, I think we're moving at warp speed.

Pricing will be released as soon as I have pricing from my suppliers. There will be other parts available that you can buy for your Miata that is also available for the Catfish. Cool, relevant parts.

Let me catch my breath...

psreynol 11-03-2012 09:04 PM

dare I even ask about these mystery parts?

rleete 11-03-2012 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 946293)
Let me catch my breath...

You can breath later. We want pictures, details, and pricing!

cordycord 11-03-2012 09:20 PM

Mystery part--5-lug hub
 

Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 946304)
dare I even ask about these mystery parts?

OK, at least one part has already been discussed--the 5 lug hub kit. We still haven't tested, so this is preliminary too. Long story short, it will allow a 5 lug hub--complete with larger bearings and 5x114.3 lug spacing. This is important for tracksters, the v8 crazies, and those looking to go wide with their wheel selection.

In the future I really prefer to have the stuff in stock before releasing information, but my professionalism has gone out the window since joining Trubo. :)

y8s 11-03-2012 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 946293)
Let me catch my breath...

I think you've done well. Even Chrysler needed a copule years to build the Viper.

That said, you've basically just thrown a bunch of raw steak into a tiger pen.

cordycord 11-04-2012 12:28 AM

Wet weight 1,567lbs (712kg)
 
One last post; we got the car back to the shop from SEMA and finally had a chance to get it up on scales for the first time. No sorting, no corner balancing, and some gas in the tank.

1,567lbs or 712kg. Not bad. How would your Miata handle if the two 300lb sumo wrestlers got out of the back seat? :)

curly 11-04-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 946293)
Let me catch my breath...

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1352059816

arbinshire 11-04-2012 06:49 PM

So what would come with "the kit" (pricing to be determined?)

Also, I suppose this a dumb question, but what happens if it rains?

Joe Perez 11-04-2012 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by arbinshire (Post 946508)
Also, I suppose this a dumb question, but what happens if it rains?

You get wet.

Next?

rleete 11-04-2012 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 946513)
You get wet.

Next?


Not necessarily. The car does, you may go inside and wait it out.

Joe Perez 11-04-2012 07:28 PM

Wimp.

18psi 11-04-2012 07:31 PM

next you should ask about trunk space and whether it can tow a boat

cordycord 11-04-2012 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 946522)
next you should ask about trunk space and whether it can tow a boat

I think you get the concept. Once upon a time cars didn't even come with cup holders. If that's a deal breaker, the Catfish is not for you.

hochkis 11-04-2012 08:23 PM

I think i'd rather have the bare chassis with some basic aluminum "skin" on it.
Don't get me wrong the car is beautiful, but seems too nice for me. :rofl:

y8s 11-04-2012 09:02 PM

buy an EZ-up.

arbinshire 11-05-2012 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 946513)
You get wet.

Bah! By that question I should have asked, how much of a problem will water prove to be to the interior? I've always wondered about this (e.g., Ariel Atom).

cordycord 11-05-2012 01:27 AM

Wet interior
 

Originally Posted by arbinshire (Post 946587)
Bah! By that question I should have asked, how much of a problem will water prove to be to the interior? I've always wondered about this (e.g., Ariel Atom).

If you leave the house in this car with storm clouds brewing, you'll get wet. That said, we will be making a passenger tonneau. It wouldn't be difficult to make a full fabric tonneau as well, just like we had for our Speedster.

fastivab6tg25mr 11-05-2012 01:54 AM

browsing through some sema pics and found some of the catfish. looks amazing

IMG_1030

psreynol 11-05-2012 08:07 AM

I think a full tonneau top with a zipper in the middle would be a great idea. when you leave the car sitting at the track over night it wont be covered with morning dew on the inside.

golftdibrad 11-05-2012 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 946513)
You get wet.

Next?

in my case, very wet.

y8s 11-05-2012 11:35 AM

alternatives:

- floor drains in the cockpit

- hydrophobic coatings on the seats and other interior fabrics

- goggles.

czubaka 11-05-2012 11:42 AM

Mounts for 80 cube ft scuba tank in cockpit?

Braineack 11-05-2012 12:17 PM

drive faster.

Joe Perez 11-05-2012 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by golftdibrad (Post 946644)
in my case, very wet.

Pretty much the same rules apply here as with owning a motorcycle, insofar as cargo carriage and the elements. Motorcycles don't offer a great deal of protection from the rain, nor are they especially well-adapted to transporting large pieces of furniture, towing boats, etc. They are, however, quite a lot of fun.

Thus, some people elect not to own a motorcycle, whereas others gladly pay $15-20k and up for them.


Cordy, if it's not yet too late to make a modification to the bodywork prior to pulling the production molds, might I suggest an affordance at the tail end which would allow for the mounting of a class-1 trailer hitch? Given the popularity of trailer hitches among the general Miata community for the purpose of transporting tires and related equipment to and from racetracks, I would imagine that this would suit a large percentage of the Catfish's target audience.

cordycord 11-05-2012 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by golftdibrad (Post 946644)
in my case, very wet.

you live below sea level brad!!! :)

cordycord 11-05-2012 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 946746)
Pretty much the same rules apply here as with owning a motorcycle, insofar as cargo carriage and the elements. Motorcycles don't offer a great deal of protection from the rain, nor are they especially well-adapted to transporting large pieces of furniture, towing boats, etc. They are, however, quite a lot of fun.

Thus, some people elect not to own a motorcycle, whereas others gladly pay $15-20k and up for them.


Cordy, if it's not yet too late to make a modification to the bodywork prior to pulling the production molds, might I suggest an affordance at the tail end which would allow for the mounting of a class-1 trailer hitch? Given the popularity of trailer hitches among the general Miata community for the purpose of transporting tires and related equipment to and from racetracks, I would imagine that this would suit a large percentage of the Catfish's target audience.

That's something I just can't personally do Joe. :) However, the rear diffuser is easily removable via dzus fasteners. The rear clip, which is made of DOM tube, could be taken to your local welding shop and "amended" to accept a class-1 hitch. In fact it would be easy. However, for me it would be like seeing the Mona Lisa with a tattoo. :facepalm:

cordycord 11-05-2012 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 946625)
I think a full tonneau top with a zipper in the middle would be a great idea. when you leave the car sitting at the track over night it wont be covered with morning dew on the inside.

:bigtu::bigtu::bigtu:

One part of me looks forward to the modifications that people will do to the Catfish, and the other part shudders.

czubaka 11-06-2012 12:01 AM

Oh the things us heathens will do to your beautiful girl...:fael:

Dot3 11-06-2012 12:57 AM

In.

99mx5 11-06-2012 02:05 AM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 946925)
That's something I just can't personally do Joe. :) However, the rear diffuser is easily removable via dzus fasteners. The rear clip, which is made of DOM tube, could be taken to your local welding shop and "amended" to accept a class-1 hitch. In fact it would be easy. However, for me it would be like seeing the Mona Lisa with a tattoo. :facepalm:

I'm sure it possible to add a hidden hitch and a removable panel in the diffuser.
The receptacle for the hitch would be so low, the "tattoo" would not be visible until you looked underneath the car. Then again, the mod would not be difficult for the purchaser to mod one into the car. Maybe offer it as an extra. Who knows, you can also offer a cool trailer shell that matches the car that you bolt onto a HF trailer frame.

cordycord 11-06-2012 02:13 AM


Originally Posted by 99mx5 (Post 946941)
I'm sure it possible to add a hidden hitch and a removable panel in the diffuser.
The receptacle for the hitch would be so low, the "tattoo" would not be visible until you looked underneath the car. Then again, the mod would not be difficult for the purchaser to mod one into the car. Maybe offer it as an extra. Who knows, you can also offer a cool trailer shell that matches the car that you bolt onto a HF trailer frame.

tramp stamp :)

golftdibrad 11-06-2012 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 946924)
you live below sea level brad!!! :)

Well Baton Rouge is actualy above sea level, freaked me out whn I found out the drainage system does not use pumps!

But I was saying that I got VERY wet in Tennessee.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1352205899

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1352205899

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1352205899



So yea, in a car like this, if it rains you get wet. Its just water, and I promise you'll dry out eventually. :noob:

rileyg 11-12-2012 08:21 PM

Any new updates on the pricing and production dates? I'm out here in Irvine for the next three days and would love to get a sneek peek at the catfish in person if that might be possible.

cordycord 11-12-2012 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by rileyg (Post 949068)
Any new updates on the pricing and production dates? I'm out here in Irvine for the next three days and would love to get a sneek peek at the catfish in person if that might be possible.

Hi Riley,

Unfortunately I don't have all the final pricing for the car. Whether I get there or not, we'll have pricing in December. One hard number--under $20k for a kit still stands, but the 818 starting price of $10k is simply not possible.

On a non-price note, the car interior is being finished up. For example, the show car didn't have allowance for adjustable steering height or even harnesses. These are being added, as is the emergency brake and provisions for seats other than the stock Miata units.

Once that's done, the whole car comes apart and the finished bodywork will act as our bucks for the production molds. We'll be tweaking on these parts so that the bodywork literally can't be installed any way but the proper way. People at the show who pushed on the bodywork were amazed at how solid it felt...literally stiffer than your average Mercedes. Luckily no one tried to stand on the hood...

rileyg 11-13-2012 11:09 AM

I'm getting really excited about building one of these cars. Can we get a waiting list going right behind me? Keep up the great work!

cordycord 11-13-2012 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by rileyg (Post 949249)
I'm getting really excited about building one of these cars. Can we get a waiting list going right behind me? Keep up the great work!

Thanks Riley. If you haven't, please sign up on the bauerltd web site, as we'll use that customer list to send out the first information on pricing and how to get on the build list.

rileyg 11-13-2012 03:20 PM

I'm on there. Are you guys gonna have a down pipe available that will work with current fm turbo setups?

Joe Perez 11-13-2012 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 946926)
One part of me looks forward to the modifications that people will do to the Catfish, and the other part shudders.

It occurs to me that Rule 35 applies here.

Sadly, I lack the artistic talent.

cordycord 11-14-2012 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by rileyg (Post 949389)
I'm on there. Are you guys gonna have a down pipe available that will work with current fm turbo setups?

Probably not at first. However, a downpipe from a log will be fairly simply for any local shop to fabricate, and pretty hard to screw up.

A turbo Catfish will be massive fun to drive. :)

psreynol 11-14-2012 12:26 PM

do we think a stock FM downpipe will not work on the catfish?

cordycord 11-14-2012 06:36 PM

catfish down pipe
 

Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 949748)
do we think a stock FM downpipe will not work on the catfish?

No way. Right now we're using the stock header and a custom down pipe tht pushes the exhaust to the driver side pipe. We're also going to make a custom complete exhaust for the NA/NB.

The issue with the turbo isn't going to be routing, but more likely heat management. I want to make sure that the temperatures are vented properly.

rileyg 11-14-2012 08:37 PM

Can i come see the car in person?

cordycord 11-14-2012 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by rileyg (Post 949925)
Can i come see the car in person?

Absolutely, except that the car is in San Marcos (San Diego county) and i'm in Oregon at present. I'll be back Tuesday if you want to make plans.

Joe, you want to some out and see the car with the body on it too? :)

Joe Perez 11-14-2012 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 949992)
Joe, you want to some out and see the car with the body on it too? :)

See it? Hell, I want to DRIVE it. :D

rileyg 11-15-2012 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 949992)
Absolutely, except that the car is in San Marcos (San Diego county) and i'm in Oregon at present. I'll be back Tuesday if you want to make plans.

Joe, you want to some out and see the car with the body on it too? :)

**** I'm down here in socal but only til the end of the day tomorrow.

cordycord 11-15-2012 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by joe perez (Post 949993)
see it? Hell, i want to drive it. :d

me too!!!

curly 11-15-2012 04:10 AM

Whatcha doing up here?

cordycord 11-17-2012 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 950036)
Whatcha doing up here?

Checking on a little girl that deserves a better life. Long, sad, personal story, but real life nonetheless. I'll resume the Catfish fantasy on Tuesday...


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