Hustler's build thread 2.0, the natural aspiration connection
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I was gonna plagiarize yours til I saw that it doesn't trigger anything til 2500. I know I saw your explanation for that in Bryces thread but it still didn't make sense to me. I want as much torque and response as soon as possible, and see no reason why you can't advance at least 500rpm sooner. (*edit: in that thread you said you "couldn't really feel any significant difference on the butt dyno with that vs advancing earlier)
Apparently hustler agree's with my logic.
I know you're smarter than us so lay down the knowledge bro. I wanna hear it.
I know on many other cars (subaru avcs, mitsu mivec, etc) everyone triggers from basically 1500-2000 and up
Apparently hustler agree's with my logic.
I know you're smarter than us so lay down the knowledge bro. I wanna hear it.
I know on many other cars (subaru avcs, mitsu mivec, etc) everyone triggers from basically 1500-2000 and up
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From: Fake Virginia
I was gonna plagiarize yours til I saw that it doesn't trigger anything til 2500. I know I saw your explanation for that in Bryces thread but it still didn't make sense to me. I want as much torque and response as soon as possible, and see no reason why you can't advance at least 500rpm sooner. (*edit: in that thread you said you "couldn't really feel any significant difference on the butt dyno with that vs advancing earlier)
Apparently hustler agree's with my logic.
I know you're smarter than us so lay down the knowledge bro. I wanna hear it.
I know on many other cars (subaru avcs, mitsu mivec, etc) everyone triggers from basically 1500-2000 and up
Apparently hustler agree's with my logic.
I know you're smarter than us so lay down the knowledge bro. I wanna hear it.
I know on many other cars (subaru avcs, mitsu mivec, etc) everyone triggers from basically 1500-2000 and up
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From: Fake Virginia
If you need something related to VVT it's a way to change the enrichment based on what the cam is doing.
we have MAP based which is OK and TPS based which is worthless with respect to VVT, but what if the rate of VE change is very fast?
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My adaptronic allows a cell map of every 250rpm up to i think 7.25k or every 300rpm up to 9k...30 cells resolution total. And 16 cells for map pressure which puts you at every 6kpa if u're only going up to 100kpa. Enough resolution to make your ***** sore. Thats 480 cells.. have fun tunning that.
I ran my car at 250 cell map resolution for a while, the main noticeable difference was at idle. It idled amazingly but was a pain in the *** to tune which is why i went to 500 again. (Wasnt me that gave u the -1 btw)
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My goal was to eliminate bucking at that RPM range. I succeeded.
I'm talking about absolute power above 5000rpm. I did not have enough resolution to determine I was on the limit, all the time, I needed more break points. I think of "enrichment" as fuel flow, not air flow since I don't have a pump injecting air. Well, I had one at one time but in this era of "shared sacrifice" I cannot haz turbo.
I'm talking about absolute power above 5000rpm. I did not have enough resolution to determine I was on the limit, all the time, I needed more break points. I think of "enrichment" as fuel flow, not air flow since I don't have a pump injecting air. Well, I had one at one time but in this era of "shared sacrifice" I cannot haz turbo.
Anyway, I was having big constant issues with advancing the cam too fast and getting a lean spike because of it.
EAE might help but I doubt it because MAP is read before the valves.
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your motor is the air pump.... you're changing how the air gets in when you change the cam timing. changing airflow directly affects AFR, doesn't it?
Anyway, I was having big constant issues with advancing the cam too fast and getting a lean spike because of it.
EAE might help but I doubt it because MAP is read before the valves.
Anyway, I was having big constant issues with advancing the cam too fast and getting a lean spike because of it.
EAE might help but I doubt it because MAP is read before the valves.
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Car is now balanced but I failed to do the alignment properly. I got three wheels done just fine but the left rear could not get any tow-in with the camber numbers.
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I have a 138whp dyno for you guys in the next couple days. I I have to go back because we didn't have ASE correction on, some other formula so I spent an hour adjusting to a number that was reading higher than the SAE number. God damnit.
BTW, max power for my car is 148whp. Not bad for an OEM VVT car with a conservative, 91-octane tune.
BTW, max power for my car is 148whp. Not bad for an OEM VVT car with a conservative, 91-octane tune.








