Luke's "I have an EFR but refuse to use it" Build - Page 7 - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Build Threads Building a motor? Post the progress here.

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-04-2014, 02:31 PM   #121
Elite Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 2,791
Total Cats: 71
Default

clamp it with vise grips REALLY tight, hit the vise grips with a hammer. it will slide out easier with light impact than brute force and this way you don't pry on the engine parts directly.
shlammed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2014, 02:33 PM   #122
Elite Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 2,791
Total Cats: 71
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S View Post
That's how we arrived at this conundrum. There isn't enough material sticking out to grab onto, at least not anymore...
the belt drive gear isn't in all of the way, is this the cause or effect?

if you can push the gear on further, you will have more meat to grab on the key,
shlammed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2014, 08:13 PM   #123
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

Crowbar'd the bish off. The oil pump housing is a little worse for wear but the marks seem to be superficial.

Waiting for a new belt drive gear and woodruff key from Rosenthal.

Thanks for all the suggestions gehs!
Efini~FC3S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2014, 11:34 PM   #124
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

Got some more time to work on the engine the last two nights. Short-block is basically finished and buttoned up. Had a hell of a time getting the timing belt on and timed correctly. I bought the FM timing belt tool to make the job "easier" but for the life of me I could not get the cams aligned correctly with the tool. No matter how I put the tool in it would have the cams off a tooth or two and the belt would not go on. Eventually I gave up on the stupid tool and used the "two crescent wrenches and vice grips" method and the belt went right on the first try.

FM Ninja Timing Belt Tool DID NOT work for me, WAS NOT WORTH THE MONEY. I'd like to think it was user error but I literally wrestled with it for an hour and could not get it to work. Tried the other method and was finished in ~5 minutes.


Here's with the FM tool. It's hard to see in the pictures but both cam gears are "below" where they should be. The intake gear maybe more so than the exhaust.






Here's the belt installed...the good 'ole fashioned way. I tried to get a picture with all three timing marks in it. Does this look right?







Here's the shortblock as of last night. Tonight I started bolting really dirty nasty parts to it like the intake manifold and the mixing manifold, etc. etc.








I'm hoping to finish the longblock reassembly this week and maybe start on pulling the motor out of the car this weekend.

Also, I bought a brand new crank timing gear since I pry'd on the other one a few too many times with the woodruff key "issue". I bought a new OEM one from Rosenthal. It broke immediately while trying to install. I pry'd on it just a tiny bit when trying to put it on and take it off and a chunk of the very outer rim broke right off. The new version of the part appears to be some chitty powder metal POS. The old one appears to be forged steel. Anyway, I put the old one back on and cursed the $35+ I wasted on the new and not improved one. Between the new lower timing gear and the FM tool I've wasted $50...a month's worth of beer money down the drain.

Curses
Efini~FC3S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2014, 01:24 AM   #125
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 6,010
Total Cats: 583
Default

Never had much luck with the "Ninja" either.
hornetball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2014, 09:19 AM   #126
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornetball View Post
Never had much luck with the "Ninja" either.
The worst part is I'm too poor to drink bottles of beer that require a bottle opener...so I can't even use it for that!
Efini~FC3S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2014, 09:20 AM   #127
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,093
Total Cats: 90
Default

If you're too poor to drink good beer, you're too poor to drink beer at all.
Leafy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2014, 10:12 PM   #128
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafy View Post
If you're too poor to drink good beer, you're too poor to drink beer at all.
Me and about 60 million shitty beer drinking Americans are gonna have to disagree with you.
Efini~FC3S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2014, 10:20 PM   #129
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 6,010
Total Cats: 583
Default

Bud Light Lime in the Summer heat. Nothing like it!
hornetball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2014, 10:24 PM   #130
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

So I went to check this out this evening ---> 1994 Mazda Miata - Brilliant Black

I really dislike my red turd quite a bit, so I've been thinking about picking up a nicer NA and selling the red car. I don't know if I want to put all the time and effort into installing the arsesome motor and turblow into a POS car.

Unfortunately, the seller neglected to mention the small patch of rust on the rear quarter panel where it meet's the rear bumper. It's a nice car overall, but I live in North Carolina, I shouldn't have to deal with rust anymore.

Also, my Reverant E-MS2 was built for a 96-97. How hard would it be to "modify" it to work on a 94 or 95? Or even 99 or 2000? Am I better off selling the MS2 and buying a MS2/MS3 specifically for whatever I buy (if I buy)?
Efini~FC3S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 08:20 AM   #131
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,093
Total Cats: 90
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S View Post
Me and about 60 million shitty beer drinking Americans are gonna have to disagree with you.
Just because 60 million other people do it doesnt mean that it makes financial sense.

You can save a lot of money on bud light lime if you mix 3 drops of lemon dish soap per gallon of water and drink that. Its nearly the same. You even get the bud mud the next day just like the real thing.
Leafy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 08:49 AM   #132
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

I wonder how many of your 6000 post are useless pedantic drivel...?
Efini~FC3S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 10:06 AM   #133
Murderator
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 36,206
Total Cats: 2,587
Default

Leafy, aren't you the one running pathetic power on an efr setup cause you're too poor to put a 6sp in?
18psi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 10:25 AM   #134
Elite Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 2,791
Total Cats: 71
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S View Post
I wonder how many of your 6000 post are useless pedantic drivel...?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 18psi View Post
Leafy, aren't you the one running pathetic power on an efr setup cause you're too poor to put a 6sp in?
ahahaha


great
shlammed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 10:29 AM   #135
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,093
Total Cats: 90
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S View Post
I wonder how many of your 6000 post are useless pedantic drivel...?
5000?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 18psi View Post
Leafy, aren't you the one running pathetic power on an efr setup cause you're too poor to put a 6sp in?
Its not that I'm too poor. I could find the money but I havent for 2 reasons, I dont feel the need to make more torque, and I'm waiting for something better than a 6 speed to come out.
Leafy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 03:46 PM   #136
I take big bites
iTrader: (1)
 
turbofan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Hurricane, UT
Posts: 6,930
Total Cats: 526
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafy View Post
5000?
turbofan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 03:51 PM   #137
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
concealer404's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 8,465
Total Cats: 784
Default

+1 for the Ninja tool basically just being a Ninja pain in the *** for m.netters that would rather fiddle with a small thing for 30 minutes instead of working moderately for 5 minutes setting timing the old fashioned way.

The crank bolt tool was pretty cool, though. I'm not sure how many times i'd be able to use it (i bent the **** out of it when i used it), or if it was something i couldn't have made myself in about 10 minutes, but it sure worked well.
concealer404 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 08:36 PM   #138
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Cedar City, UT
Posts: 2,769
Total Cats: 948
Default

Funny, this is the first time I have heard that the Ninja tool is a POS. Glad I didn't waste money on it.
Jeffbucc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 09:12 PM   #139
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 715
Total Cats: 53
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafy View Post
5000?



Its not that I'm too poor. I could find the money but I havent for 2 reasons, I dont feel the need to make more torque, and I'm waiting for something better than a 6 speed to come out.
Maybe the new MX-5 will have a 7-speed? Unfortunately Mazda is good at designing shitty transmissions. Even when the gears are strong, the go and add an aluminum bearing plate to just screw it all up! I wonder at what point someone will do a stainless CNC bearing plate for the Miata like they did on the Protege.
bcrx7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 09:28 PM   #140
Senior Member
iTrader: (15)
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Las Cruces, NM
Posts: 1,404
Total Cats: 263
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffbucc View Post
Funny, this is the first time I have heard that the Ninja tool is a POS. Glad I didn't waste money on it.
Same here, I just use the two wrench and vise grip method. Use adjustable wrenches on the cams and clamp them together to hold them in place.
99mx5 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LucaCarMods's Boosted Dutch Miata Build! LucaCarMods Build Threads 11 02-14-2016 07:13 AM
WTB MP62 (Hotside) (NB2) Rick02R WTB 3 01-03-2016 08:18 PM
Is my swirl pot design okay? FrankB Race Prep 10 10-02-2015 10:00 PM
Bad head gasket or ? shooterschmidty Engine Performance 8 09-30-2015 11:28 PM
Image resizer concealer404 Front Desk 3 09-29-2015 01:41 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:19 AM.