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Old 08-11-2014, 06:11 PM   #21
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It depends: is begi selling ev14 flawlessly matched "injector dynamics" or hogged out ev6 "deatschwerks pnp" injectors?

too lazy to look.

PS: we've been down that road before if I recall correctly. I'm still of the same opinion I gave you then. Fuel injectors are one of those items that can make or ruin your setup.
BEGi site says they are "custom milled EV14 1000cc/min injectors". They come with flow charts and a complete latency table.

Sounds pretty sweet, but the price difference confuses me.

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I think those are the "deatschwerks universal" ev14's. So basically like ID1000's, but not actually ID1000's. If you go on the deatschwerks site you'll likely find the same ones, for the same price. Five-o motorsports does something similar as well, and I think theirs are $299

I dunno, I haven't seen them (begi/dw ones) run yet............so you should guinea pig them
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I think those are the "deatschwerks universal" ev14's. So basically like ID1000's, but not actually ID1000's. If you go on the deatschwerks site you'll likely find the same ones, for the same price. Five-o motorsports does something similar as well, and I think theirs are $299

I dunno, I haven't seen them (begi/dw ones) run yet............so you should guinea pig them
Well since I wasted $150 on a new clutch disk when I buggered up the splines on the first one saving $150 on the injectors will get me back to even right? I will give them a shot and let everyone know how I like them.

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Make sure you check out FAB9 too, I know for sure he has an account with DW
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Final video, just idle after fully warmed up. It sure is quieter at 900 RPM than it was at 1500 RPM on the cold startup!



I am going to go take a picture of the engine bay as it currently sits with my GM air temp sensor zip tied to the outside of the cone filter attached directly to the throttle body

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just watched the vids.

its even more raspy than my enthuza was lol.

Its ok though, once you go turbo the sound will be lightyears better, and it will actually sound amazing.
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Here are those engine bay pics:

First one is the air filter with the GM air temp sensor zip tied to it.



The next is the 01+ header.



Next week I will lay out all the cool new parts from BEGi and take pics of them before starting the installation.

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[email protected] "intake".

I kinda like it
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If you're going to be a guinea pig, try the 5-0 injectors. I wanna see how pnp they really are. They flow match and include the flow sheet and latency table. Looks like closer to $400 for what you're looking for.
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btw how are the rx8 injectors on e85? how's idle, part throttle, etc? I often wondered whether ev6's idle/behave better on corn due to needing higher pw's
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btw how are the rx8 injectors on e85? how's idle, part throttle, etc? I often wondered whether ev6's idle/behave better on corn due to needing higher pw's
Sorry for slow reply, didn't see this question.

The RX8's work great, idle is rock steady and no problems at part throttle. I do have the "lean on hot restart" issue, and I need to ask on the MS3 lean hot start thread if the others experiencing it are using RX8 injectors or if it is with a variety if different injectors.

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I said in my first post I would dyno it "as is" to get a feel for what I am making with the exhaust, E85, MS3, and my awesome ultra-short intake... so here it is!



I asked what a stock 99 makes on this dynojet and was told "around 110 WHP"... so a solid 20 WHP gain over stock combined with the short gearing of the 6 speed makes it feel faster than it was with the M45 at 5.5 psi and the stock 5 speed.

You can see the rest of my dyno sheets over in the dyno and time slip sub forum here:

https://www.miataturbo.net/dynos-tim...6-speed-80497/

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PS: pics of parts to come in AM before I start the installation.
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Not the most exciting pictures... but it gives an idea of how the parts arrive from BEGi.

Pics of a bunch of bags of parts and still wrapped up parts... if interested click on the thumbnails... I am not going to bother putting them all in full size in this post.

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aww yeah
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Fun fact... bag #1 contains the instructions on CD. I hooked up my external CD ROM (since modern computers don't have optical drives) popped in the CD... and it is a blank CD-R!!!

Panic mode e-mail sent to Stephanie, and I will be calling when I wake up in the morning.

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Just got the shipping e-mail from 949 racing... my Xida's are in the mail! Build thread just got a boost in complexity

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wow, s6 kit and xidas.

not a bad way to spend close to 10 grand
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wow, s6 kit and xidas.

not a bad way to spend close to 10 grand
In the past I have done things half assed, and then upgraded to what I really wanted later... you end up spending 15K on it to get what would have been a 10K build if you had done it right the first time. Throw in wheels and tires to take advantage of the power and suspension and we are talking another 1.5K to 2K...

Then the daily driver will be "done for now" and I can start working on my drag car that I have been ignoring. 1984 Dodge Conquest (re-badged Mitsubishi Starion).

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Couple new pictures, and a question.

I am very tempted to pull the AC system out while I am ripping things apart. Can you retain the power steering by just going to a shorter belt or do you need a dummy pulley where the AC compressor used to be?

I always remove the hood when doing engine work.



Old and new Radiators side by side.



I had no idea how thin the stock radiator is!



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You need a dummy pulley. No longer available through Mazda, but Kia sells it.

There was a thread about it on here... the assembly was about $80.

That said... just remove PS, too. A properly depowered rack isn't hard to drive at all.
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