Build Threads Building a motor? Post the progress here.

NOT A MIATA, FE3N+HOLSET+73 FORD COURIER BUILD

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-11-2022, 12:35 PM
  #241  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

The REPU was that same overall as the B1600/Courier other than having a rotary. The body is just cosmetically different. Ford never got a rotary engine.
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 08-01-2022, 11:40 AM
  #242  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

Got to put the beast of a homemade sheet metal brake to work, had no problem bending 38" of 16ga. I'm happy how it turned out.
Name:  r8fMUiB.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  1.53 MB
Name:  zpq2TFA.jpg
Views: 355
Size:  1.86 MB
Name:  eKtJeaG.jpg
Views: 358
Size:  1.44 MB
Name:  QaY2PLU.jpg
Views: 359
Size:  1.23 MB
Name:  Mml2t8y.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  1.36 MB
Name:  OLHtpyP.jpg
Views: 359
Size:  1.68 MB
Name:  qBr8JtL.jpg
Views: 358
Size:  1.54 MB
Name:  nCimdrL.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  1.36 MB
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 08-12-2022, 12:05 PM
  #243  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

After waiting a full year and few days my built motor is finally done! The down side is that I forgot to drill and tap the turbo drain before sending the block out. I've never been more terrified to drill and tap anything in my entire life. It's 1/2npt in the thinnest part of the block. I was so scared it might crack the block.

Name:  KQEe7wn.jpg
Views: 351
Size:  4.90 MB
Name:  IYDZ3aO.jpg
Views: 360
Size:  2.81 MB
Name:  3IvUQJR.jpg
Views: 358
Size:  4.77 MB
Name:  Zfwgwf7.jpg
Views: 361
Size:  4.73 MB
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 08-12-2022, 12:22 PM
  #244  
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
sixshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 20,679
Total Cats: 3,019
Default

Looking great.
sixshooter is offline  
Old 09-07-2022, 09:34 PM
  #245  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

I had a 4 day weekend over labor day and was so excided to get this build motor in... WAS... pulled the old motor out. cleaned everything up, swapped the head studs, installed new oil pump, water pump, turbo feed and drain lines on. check check all the valve clearances on my "Freshly ported/machined" head that I paid a lot of money for and they were all over place, no worries I just need to pull lifters to see how the "custom solid lifters" are adjusted. That's when the **** show started. the "solid lifters" are nothing more than hacksawed bolts that aren't even close to smooth or flat, the oil feed port to the hydraulic lifters was not plugged on any of them, a crude channel in the bolts made sure that all the oil pressure going through the unplugged ports in the buckets was free to bleed off onto the valve. I then water tested the valves for the first time to make sure that was at least done correctly, i mean how can a machine shop screw up valves?. Almost every one pissed all over the floor. I pulled the valves and found only 3 intake and 2 exhaust valves were even machined. not a single seat had any angles cut into them and all of them looked looked almost rounded over. the unmachined valves are so worn you can visually see the wear. all the valve springs appear to be the stock double valve springs but I don't have a testing scale to confirm or deny that. The only thing about the head that looked legit is the cams the intake has a tiny bit more lift and 80* more duration @.005" and the exhaust cam has an extra .070" lift and 85* more duration @ .005". I've been scrambling to make this thing not a boat anchor but all the machine shops are a month out and I'm not 100% sure what I'm gonna do with the lifters. Do I just stay with stock hydros? do I add shims to my hla's to make them solid and pin the oil hole shut or do I spend another $1000 on a legit set of solid buckets and shim them properly.

Name:  ReblrUY.jpg
Views: 359
Size:  1.97 MB
Name:  uvr1340.jpg
Views: 360
Size:  2.07 MB
Name:  dJ62oeF.jpg
Views: 355
Size:  1.84 MB
Name:  wR9C8IR.jpg
Views: 361
Size:  1.73 MB
Name:  wFB9Hbc.jpg
Views: 359
Size:  1.83 MB
Name:  vY35Lfi.jpg
Views: 361
Size:  1.92 MB
Name:  h9luVq4.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  2.01 MB
Name:  MEumTiG.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  1.86 MB
Name:  p3hZFLc.jpg
Views: 362
Size:  3.37 MB
Name:  HJX0l5J.jpg
Views: 349
Size:  3.67 MB
Name:  kiNdrT0.jpg
Views: 352
Size:  1.90 MB
Name:  oNUkWTi.jpg
Views: 359
Size:  4.14 MB
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Z0IVfTV.jpg[img]
Name:  2vSvrSw.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  3.90 MB
Name:  rWnOf1L.jpg
Views: 351
Size:  2.41 MB
Name:  XcfvYUy.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  4.66 MB
Name:  nob4uYN.jpg
Views: 351
Size:  3.41 MB
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 09-09-2022, 06:18 PM
  #246  
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
sonofthehill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: SF Bay Area, CA
Posts: 3,079
Total Cats: 553
Default

"Holy friggin crap!" The SOTH thinks to himself as his throat sinks into his stomach.

Sorry to hear about this, I suppose my inclination would be to try out the hydraulic lifters if the cams are compatible.
I guess I will be checking out my new head tomorrow.



Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
sonofthehill is offline  
Old 09-09-2022, 06:33 PM
  #247  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

It's so hard to find good machine shops anymore :(
18psi is offline  
Old 09-13-2022, 11:33 AM
  #248  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

I'm building my own solid lifters and sending the head out to be pressure tested and the valves done.

Measured the weight of a bucket and lifter full of oil and bled of air
Name:  Vt7HOpq.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  3.05 MB
jig to evenly cut holes from the lifter bottom to access the oil hole for pinning as well as weight reduction
Name:  pWKJWvQ.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  4.52 MB
Name:  n3Eo5my.jpg
Views: 351
Size:  2.64 MB
Name:  bI70e0m.jpg
Views: 359
Size:  3.00 MB
before and after weights
Name:  UsLBkA5.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  3.67 MB
Name:  cygJPPt.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  3.86 MB
final weight with a 2.4mm lash spacer
Name:  NOjnu8e.jpg
Views: 361
Size:  3.13 MB
using 1/16" brass rod to plug the oil holes
Name:  KYDajYZ.jpg
Views: 358
Size:  2.35 MB
Name:  yy9cUG7.jpg
Views: 358
Size:  2.09 MB
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 10-26-2022, 02:14 PM
  #249  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

long time with no update. ive been having a hell of a time with imgur not working so i have no way to post pictures.

I picked up an old Rimac valve spring tester to build my cylinder head properly. it needed a little work to get going. when all said and done its within .5lb of the test spring at every height
Name:  bZSm39r.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  2.64 MB
Name:  xhCO2cM.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  2.31 MB​​​​​​​
Name:  BOqxghJ.jpg
Views: 359
Size:  2.97 MB​​​​​​​
Name:  xDhufie.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  2.75 MB​​​​​​​
Name:  Gtk0sJO.jpg
Views: 355
Size:  2.46 MB​​​​​​​
Name:  2ailVL4.jpg
Views: 358
Size:  4.40 MB


i bought valves, springs, and guides. supertech had a mix up and sent me stainless valves instead of the inconel ones i ordered so im waiting on those to come in. the valve seats are ovalized so i will need to send the head out for machining.
Name:  WB756QW.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  1.77 MB
Name:  yKksJfQ.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  1.72 MB
Name:  ufvAvwJ.jpg
Views: 355
Size:  2.91 MB



Im cutting out and replacing my Mustang 2 front end. Its been hacked up too many times and needs to be replaced to look pretty. im also redoing the front engine mounts with some BMW 325i mounts to try to reduce the vibrations.
Name:  c7wVVMH.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  3.84 MB​​​​​​​
Name:  rkfsTDO.jpg
Views: 348
Size:  503 Bytes​​​​​​​
Name:  eMrFQ0o.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  4.55 MB​​​​​​​
Name:  0N3JJJu.jpg
Views: 355
Size:  4.76 MB


Last edited by fastivab6tg25mr; 10-26-2022 at 02:32 PM.
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 10-28-2022, 05:42 PM
  #250  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

Name:  y4t9k2g.jpg
Views: 353
Size:  1.00 MB
Name:  k3RsN31.jpg
Views: 353
Size:  1.01 MB
Name:  2ZZpCbt.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  761.4 KB
Name:  0y6o5ey.jpg
Views: 353
Size:  1.97 MB
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 11-14-2022, 12:01 PM
  #251  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

Out with the old and in with the new. It took 4 straight hours of grinding to get the frame rails smooth again. I now need to mount the steering rack so I can make the new engine mount brackets.

Name:  fiC91Fm.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  1.74 MB
Name:  xE6dxur.jpg
Views: 353
Size:  1.30 MB
Name:  0uMiVKy.jpg
Views: 355
Size:  828.9 KB
Name:  lDIDWek.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  1.01 MB
Name:  wbkT8W6.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  1.20 MB
Name:  VRIG78X.jpg
Views: 355
Size:  1.02 MB
Name:  Tugf3Ss.jpg
Views: 359
Size:  1.14 MB
Name:  rqchUlV.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  1.36 MB
Name:  0yGD3Eq.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  1.36 MB
Name:  wf8TeRE.jpg
Views: 360
Size:  1.47 MB
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 11-21-2022, 12:34 PM
  #252  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

Another long weekend but i got the engine mounts done and steering done.

Name:  rtpcOwE.jpg
Views: 359
Size:  1.47 MB
Name:  LvXGRQP.jpg
Views: 360
Size:  1.52 MB
Name:  TN8GZ4E.jpg
Views: 359
Size:  1.43 MB
Name:  auOhuUw.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  1.21 MB
Name:  mHsKlHo.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  1.15 MB
Name:  n3IuC9C.jpg
Views: 358
Size:  1.16 MB
Name:  rMktHga.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  1.05 MB
Name:  cgjfImX.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  1.20 MB
Name:  W2fKKRf.jpg
Views: 360
Size:  1.08 MB
Name:  qz6XrSh.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  1.22 MB
Name:  RVuAsbr.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  1,005.2 KB
Name:  l3PorKW.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  1.33 MB
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 11-23-2022, 02:07 PM
  #253  
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Fireindc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Taos, New mexico
Posts: 6,623
Total Cats: 582
Default

I gotta say, you are a madman! As always I appreciate you keeping this thread updated, it's always fun to see what you are doing next. Clean work on that subframe rebuild!
Fireindc is offline  
Old 12-14-2022, 01:51 PM
  #254  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

Finally got a hold of Rimac to get a replacement scale for my spring compressor. They said they are no longer available, so I made my own with a metal adhesive backed tape and a hacksaw blade. The head is back from the machine shop so it won't be long now until its running. finished drilling all the holes and pressing the in all the pins in the oil holes of all the buckets with my home made pliers. I put the buckets in the lathe after and turned the pins .015" below the surface. The lifter shims are only in .05mm increments so there will be a lot off polishing/sanding the shims to get all the valve clearances perfect. Oddly enough with nothing being available for these engines Gates still makes racing timing belts for them.

Name:  AAUzD1q.jpg
Views: 353
Size:  1.45 MB
Name:  fHgd0xE.jpg
Views: 359
Size:  1,016.0 KB
Name:  6ch7HSp.jpg
Views: 349
Size:  1.37 MB
Name:  N9aMAXr.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  1.64 MB
Name:  GZcePC9.jpg
Views: 353
Size:  752.1 KB
Name:  Her5P4E.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  735.3 KB
Name:  7MxtzpA.jpg
Views: 355
Size:  648.3 KB
Name:  lmn2ttR.jpg
Views: 349
Size:  1.41 MB
Name:  xnen9Xl.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  1.00 MB
Name:  vV9pssA.jpg
Views: 355
Size:  804.8 KB
Name:  4HS0Xv8.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  706.9 KB
Name:  29kFNoN.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  904.3 KB
Name:  EUKsN2L.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  1.89 MB
Name:  kfCcc7G.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  149.6 KB
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 12-27-2022, 08:06 PM
  #255  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

All the valve clearances are finally set. What a pain in the ***. They are in .05mm increments which is .002". The specs for the intake are .008"-.009" so I had to sand them down. Those tiny little pucks are so hard it took about half an hour each to take off .001" using the 250 grit diamond honing stone.

I forgot my Playdoh to check piston to valve clearance. I'll hopefully remember it tomorrow to verify everything and start assembling the engine.

Name:  omXZau5.jpg
Views: 357
Size:  1.82 MB
Name:  LpeiM40.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  986.8 KB
Name:  PzH0cTC.jpg
Views: 356
Size:  1.27 MB
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 12-27-2022, 11:36 PM
  #256  
Senior Member
 
Gee Emm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Canberra, sort of
Posts: 1,096
Total Cats: 184
Default

Geeze, I'd never try that, I have used a shim grinder though (but with that it is easy to take too much off). Usually, if I don't have the right size in the spares box I just order the ones I need for overnight delivery. There is a manufacturer down the road and they express them up - it's not a big package obviously!
Gee Emm is offline  
Old 12-29-2022, 09:35 AM
  #257  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fastivab6tg25mr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sacramento ,ca
Posts: 564
Total Cats: 162
Default

I remembered my Play-Doh and was able to check valve clearance. I have 1mm on the intake and .060" interference on the exhaust. I'm going over options as to how to move forward. Either I'm gonna try to get a 3mm thick head gasket which seems way too thick or contact Wiseco to see if the dome thickness is enough to cut the valve reliefs deeper. I'd prefer to keep the engine non interference just in case.
Name:  bsf0IMA.jpg
Views: 353
Size:  1.03 MB
Name:  TXMaZqC.jpg
Views: 351
Size:  996.2 KB
fastivab6tg25mr is offline  
Old 12-29-2022, 12:29 PM
  #258  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

I don't like the thick HG idea. Quench/Squish goes down the toilet and you throw away what little efficiency these already inefficient engines have.
I also love compression. The more the better. I think Sean was running 12.5:1 on his last BP on like 30+psi with a GTX35R. It's definitely the right direction for e85 and big powa

Just my
18psi is offline  
Old 12-29-2022, 02:49 PM
  #259  
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
sixshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 20,679
Total Cats: 3,019
Default

Send it.
sixshooter is offline  
Old 12-29-2022, 03:07 PM
  #260  
Senior Member
 
Gee Emm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Canberra, sort of
Posts: 1,096
Total Cats: 184
Default

Yeah, send it. Interference is only a problem if you are buying second-hand cam belts ...
Gee Emm is offline  


Quick Reply: NOT A MIATA, FE3N+HOLSET+73 FORD COURIER BUILD



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:18 PM.