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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by theshdwconspracy
So confused. Just tell me what isn't going to work, I don't get what my DP has to do with the manifold and whether or not I have an EWG. The turbo is 5 bolt and so is the DP. Its not the separated gasses DP. It's a 3" which is going to take a lot of massaging to get to fit in the engine bay but I was aware of that. Something else I should be aware of???

have you ever tried to put a square peg into a round hole?
Old Sep 16, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Mhmm, Is it just firewall clearance? or is there something even shittier I'm in for?
Old Sep 16, 2010 | 03:43 PM
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is it made for that manifold?

the only thing that would be off would be the routing of the pipe if it bolts to the turbo.


it appears that it is made for ewg being that there is no bellmouth on it.
try it in your car... it might just be routed differently by a little and will need a few mods.
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Mhmm, Is it just firewall clearance? or is there something even shittier I'm in for?

Just because the DP was made for a miata doesn't mean it was made for YOUR turbo and YOUR manifold. that's what I'm getting at...
Old Sep 16, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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You have to figure that the turbo can sit in any number of places next to the engine, depending on where the manifold places it, e.g. top mount, bottom mount, toward the front of the manifold, toward the rear of the manifold, etc. An inch off in any direction from the jig used to weld up the downpipe will mean that your downpipe won't fit.

You might get lucky though.
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Originally Posted by Trent
You might get lucky though.
*crosses fingers*
Old Sep 17, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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So i ordered all my Oil feed stuff from Earl's this morning. I got the 10mmx1.5 to -3AN adapter, 36" of -3AN line and a -3 to 10x1.25 for the turbo feed.

Does that sound right? I followed the wiki just wanted to make sure people run -3 with success.

Exhaust is on order now and I can't wait to get this **** DONE. It's been too long in the making.

Also, thanks for the heads up on the DP, Reworking it won't be a huge deal because I have full access to a shop and that's where i'll be doing all my work, but at least now I know what I'm in for.
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-3 is what i have and it works fine for my .50/.58
Old Sep 23, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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Alright, Everything is here! Wednesday it all gets put together and Thursday it will be tuned and ready to rip. Hopefully the clutch holds up! I will keep you all posted on the build progress and Dyno numbers/sheet
Old Sep 25, 2010 | 03:06 AM
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oh hey boys!

My exhaust got here today. Ps if you look closely you can see my muffler at the end of the exhaust

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Also, pulled the pan from the spare motor to have a drain valve drilled and welded into the pan. Any advice for pulling the pan with the motor in car?
Old Sep 25, 2010 | 03:17 AM
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Thats not a T04E, thats an ebay t3/t4 50 trim. BIIIG difference.
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
Thats not a T04E, thats an ebay t3/t4 50 trim. BIIIG difference.
cool thx
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Two full days and barely progress.

Had to drop my subframe for the spare oil pan which was tapped for the oil return.

That ate up a lot of time. ALSO, M-tuned manifolds are DICK. I had cut the bottom bolt holes so that i could slide them over the BOLTS i have to use because studs wont fit since the runners are practically touching the exhaust manifold. That ate up a lot of time.

Cut the excess sheet metal to fit the turbo in the car.

Have to modify the **** out of Jefe's old down pipe to get it to fit remotely close.

Now I just need to put the oil return hose on, Fit up the intercooler (90% Done), and setup the ECU (nightmare)


More progress tomorrow, hopefully...
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Wow first i hear of issues like that with the M-Tuned rods. Get what you pay for?
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Originally Posted by leatherface24
Wow first i hear of issues like that with the M-Tuned rods. Get what you pay for?
He's talking about the manifold, not the rods.

But still, I don't think i've ever heard of problems with the manifold, maybe just the waste gate flange placement.

OP, any chance you could give us some pics to show us the problem?
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lolz I failed. Here to make up for it

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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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Again with the NSFW posts with no warning Jared? How many is that?
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my bad ill start taggin them
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Thanks
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ALRIGHT! Progress made though, not a ton of it. Got everything bolted up to the car and got all my sensors wired into the ECU and in their right place.

Car wouldn't start tonight though, I think...(hope) its because i need to jump the F/P-GND pins in my diag box. I have the ST SIGN fuse pulled but everything else seems to be in order. I checked for spark and it was confirmed so tomorrow morning i'll try again. Any other advice would be rad.


Took some iphone pics during my minimal downtime to be something to look at. I'm really bad at documenting builds cause i just want to get things done and don't have time for pics.


ANYWAY

Manifold fitment:

This is off of cylinder 1 The others aren't AS extreme but still there isn't much room for anything. I ended up having to modify an open ended wrench by grinding the sides down in order to have enough room to get around the bolt enough to turn it.

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pics of the engine bay:

I have the pipe off the turbo built and on there although my I/C piping isn't ideal, it works, for now. I need this thing running first and foremost and then i can upgrade stuff as i go. Clutch and diff rebuild are up first then the detail work will come next. Priority 1 is get it running because i daily the thing and I have to work everyday.


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(edit) look at the manifold in this pic, you can see how tight all those bolts/studs fit. MAJOR pain in my ***



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