Notices
Build Threads Building a motor? Post the progress here.

Sixshooter's Slow Torture™ Build Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 21, 2012 | 01:23 PM
  #101  
pusha's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 7,330
Total Cats: -29
From: Miami, FL
Default

Originally Posted by shuiend
What ebay sandwhich plate?
>>>

Originally Posted by sixshooter
Update:
Ebay oil filter adapter spacer added to run lines to external oil cooler.
Old May 21, 2012 | 01:34 PM
  #102  
sixshooter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 22,204
Total Cats: 3,560
From: Tampa, Florida
Default

Originally Posted by pusha
opinion on the eBay sandwich plate?
Delicious. I'll see if I can find the exact one I bought.

Here's the same exact part, different chinese seller. It fit just fine.
Old May 21, 2012 | 01:36 PM
  #103  
pusha's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 7,330
Total Cats: -29
From: Miami, FL
Default

you forgot the link bro
Old May 21, 2012 | 01:39 PM
  #104  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,235
Total Cats: 1,700
From: Charleston SC
Default

I am using the glowshift sandwich plate with -10an fittings. Mine works fine now. Just make sure when you install all the fittings to use locktight liquid sealant on them all and crank them as tight as humanly ------- possible.
Old May 21, 2012 | 01:42 PM
  #105  
pusha's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 7,330
Total Cats: -29
From: Miami, FL
Default

just gonna use a breaker bar and stand on that bitch
Old May 21, 2012 | 03:00 PM
  #106  
buffon01's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,609
Total Cats: 13
From: Michigan
Default

Nice meeting you Steven!
Old May 22, 2012 | 01:09 AM
  #107  
tasty danish's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 691
Total Cats: 26
From: Yamato Japan
Default

Originally Posted by shuiend
I am using the glowshift sandwich plate with -10an fittings. Mine works fine now. Just make sure when you install all the fittings to use locktight liquid sealant on them all and crank them as tight as humanly ------- possible.
On AN fittings? Is the quality of the ebay stuff that bad?
Old May 22, 2012 | 04:15 AM
  #108  
curly's Avatar
Cpt. Slow
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 15,192
Total Cats: 1,398
From: Oregon City, OR
Default

Actually ebay stuff isn't AN, so they won't work with off the shelf AN fittings, which you're not supposed to use any type of sealant on the threads for, since they don't seal.

I believe he's referring to the NPT threads in the plate, which you thread AN-NPT adapters in to.
Old May 22, 2012 | 07:26 AM
  #109  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,235
Total Cats: 1,700
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by curly
Actually ebay stuff isn't AN, so they won't work with off the shelf AN fittings, which you're not supposed to use any type of sealant on the threads for, since they don't seal.

I believe he's referring to the NPT threads in the plate, which you thread AN-NPT adapters in to.
Curly is correct. I mean use sealant on the NPT side that threads into the plate.
Old May 22, 2012 | 02:31 PM
  #110  
sixshooter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 22,204
Total Cats: 3,560
From: Tampa, Florida
Default

Originally Posted by pusha
you forgot the link bro
Yep, I did.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-ALUMINUM-OIL-FILTER-SANDWICH-PLATE-ADAPTER-1-8-NPT-10AN-OIL-COOLER-BL-/200760223465?fits=Model:Miata&hash=item2ebe3de6e9& item=200760223465&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Access ories&vxp=mtr

It rook rike dis:


And the larger fittings were equipped with rubber washers that did not require being gorilla tight, just pretty tight. You don't want to squeeze out or cut the rubber washer. The little ones I am not currently using were sealed with high temp RTV and installed reasonably tightly.
Attached Thumbnails -adt-sw-t2-bl.jpg  
Old May 22, 2012 | 02:34 PM
  #111  
sixshooter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 22,204
Total Cats: 3,560
From: Tampa, Florida
Default

Here is the video from the second session taken from the bumper mouth:

Old Jun 2, 2012 | 08:21 PM
  #112  
sixshooter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 22,204
Total Cats: 3,560
From: Tampa, Florida
Default

Post trackday inspection reveals broken turbo to manifold stud. Unable to extract stud from down in hole and the drilling was a cluster due to broken bits. Buggered hole will likely require 10mm stud after all this. Yay! So much fun.

I replaced the broken shifter bushings and everything else in there too. Much tighter, much better.

I replaced the broken speedo cable today, also.
Old Jun 2, 2012 | 08:39 PM
  #113  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,235
Total Cats: 1,700
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by sixshooter
Post trackday inspection reveals broken turbo to manifold stud. Unable to extract stud from down in hole and the drilling was a cluster due to broken bits. Buggered hole will likely require 10mm stud after all this. Yay! So much fun.

I replaced the broken shifter bushings and everything else in there too. Much tighter, much better.

I replaced the broken speedo cable today, also.
Wait were you not using inconel studs?
Old Jun 3, 2012 | 01:18 PM
  #114  
sixshooter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 22,204
Total Cats: 3,560
From: Tampa, Florida
Default

Originally Posted by shuiend
Wait were you not using inconel studs?
Not yet. I frankly didn't think that running 6-8psi on the track was going to make enough heat and strain to do them in. Apparently the high MAT correction in the MS1 causing it to pull fuel and lean out the mixture in boost makes EGTs go through the effing roof. Somewhere in the MS code it should be written "Thou shalt not run 13.5 AFRs in boost on a hot track day in Miami when thine AITs be 115*F". This is especially frustrating when it was street tuned to run between 11 and 12.2 AFRs in that same boost range with AITs around 92*F.

My cheap Chinese turbo blanket has somewhat disintegrated after being subjected to the high heat as well. What is left of it is crunchy when you touch it.
Old Jun 3, 2012 | 05:34 PM
  #115  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,235
Total Cats: 1,700
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by sixshooter
Not yet. I frankly didn't think that running 6-8psi on the track was going to make enough heat and strain to do them in. Apparently the high MAT correction in the MS1 causing it to pull fuel and lean out the mixture in boost makes EGTs go through the effing roof. Somewhere in the MS code it should be written "Thou shalt not run 13.5 AFRs in boost on a hot track day in Miami when thine AITs be 115*F". This is especially frustrating when it was street tuned to run between 11 and 12.2 AFRs in that same boost range with AITs around 92*F.

My cheap Chinese turbo blanket has somewhat disintegrated after being subjected to the high heat as well. What is left of it is crunchy when you touch it.
TSK TSK TSK. I would not even think of going out on track without the inconel even if you are slow as *****. Time to upgrade to TSE studs.
Old Jun 3, 2012 | 08:23 PM
  #116  
sixshooter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 22,204
Total Cats: 3,560
From: Tampa, Florida
Default

Originally Posted by shuiend
Time to upgrade to TSE studs.
Dey's up to a hunert fiddy five bucs plus frayt now. Steeeeep climbin', dat.
Old Jun 3, 2012 | 08:29 PM
  #117  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,235
Total Cats: 1,700
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by sixshooter
Dey's up to a hunert fiddy five bucs plus frayt now. Steeeeep climbin', dat.
How much is loosing time on track because your turbo falls off?
Old Jun 4, 2012 | 08:11 AM
  #118  
sixshooter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 22,204
Total Cats: 3,560
From: Tampa, Florida
Default

Turbo leprosy?

Is denial considered a legitimate form of treatment?
Old Jun 4, 2012 | 07:02 PM
  #119  
GeneSplicer's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,101
Total Cats: 180
From: Birmingham, AL
Default

I've got 'one' good $37.50 TSE stud with fastener I'll send to you fer free because I pity you, fool...

This way you'll be sure the churbo doesn't come ALL the way off when the others pop
Old Jun 5, 2012 | 04:16 PM
  #120  
sixshooter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 22,204
Total Cats: 3,560
From: Tampa, Florida
Default

That's a nice offer, thanks, but I'm going a different route. Would you happen to have a lil' bit of extra Resbond, though?
Old Jun 5, 2012, 05:17 PM
This message has been deleted by sixshooter. Reason: cleanup thread
Old Jun 5, 2012, 05:21 PM
This message has been deleted by sixshooter. Reason: cleanup thread
Old Jun 5, 2012, 05:31 PM
This message has been deleted by sixshooter. Reason: cleanup thread
Old Jun 5, 2012, 06:34 PM
This message has been deleted by sixshooter. Reason: cleanup thread
Old Jun 5, 2012, 07:01 PM
This message has been deleted by sixshooter. Reason: cleanup thread
Old Jun 5, 2012, 10:18 PM
This message has been deleted by sixshooter. Reason: cleanup thread
Old Jun 6, 2012, 01:26 PM
This message has been deleted by sixshooter. Reason: cleanup thread



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:56 AM.