That retort is actually more impressive than what I expected based on the quality of the other posts I've seen you make here.

From what I've read, I'm obscenely unlikely to get a severe case of covid, why should I get the vaccine? The vaccine doesn't stop me from catching covid or spreading it. I'm unlikely to end up in the hospital either way, why should I take a vaccine that I don't trust.

Ive been saying that one since day one of covid.

At least you are consistent

The virus seems to be very odd. I know a guy in great shape, my age, etc. Spent nearly 4 weeks in the hospital and 10 weeks later is still suffering severe side-effects from it. Then my fiancée who is on multiple drugs for an autoimmune disorder caught it, was in bed for 2 weeks, but her O2 levels stayed good and never caught a fever so didn't go have to go to the hospital. Then you have my fat ass who didn't catch it from sleeping right next to her and had exactly zero side effects from either dose of the Pfzier vaccine.

But like I said, I couldn't care less what decision you make. But if private institutions want you to be vaccinated, wear a mask, etc, or you won't be allowed in, also their choice. The same with employers.

I have to agree to all kinds of things for my job, but if I want to keep my nice paycheck, benefits, RSU's........I can either play by their rules or find a different job. Isn't that what Republicans always say? If you don't like your job just get a new one?

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What I find very troubling is the abject disregard for natural immunity by the all those who follow the prescribed and/or correct Covid narrative. There's supposed to something like 100M positive test cases in the US, which means a HUGE number of people have come across the virus and undoubtedly developed natural immunity to it, yet there is no provision, nor regard, for what is surely a superior form of protection as a result. In fact, the FDA announced guidelines last May that "antibody tests should not be used to evaluate a persons level of immunity or protection from covid-19 at any time", when perfectly reliable testing had previously been made available. Why the fuck not ??????? If someone has had Covid before and can show via testing that they have acquired natural immunity to it, it should be a valid basis for exemption from vaccine requirements. Anyone who actually believes the human body's natural immune system is inferior to a simple spike protein detector is essentially a science denier (and FOS). There seems to be a whole-hearted effort from the Covid establishment to cast shade on natural immunity. What are they so afraid of ? It's not like they don't know that their almighty vaxx is so feeble that it requires boosters. If you can show with medical proof that you posses an immunity from Covid (that is at least as good as immunity via the vaxx), then that should satisfy any requirement. To me, this shows that they do not truly care about immunity from Covid, they care much more about control.

This guys makes some excellent points on the subject:

Why are companies mandating the vaccine?

Why did United fire 600 employees?

LOL, that meme accurately depicts why I've long since left numerous other forums. Miata.net in particular!

I don't know. My fiancee got it last year before there was a vaccine. Both her PCP and RA specialist both suggested she get the vaccine, and she's already had her Moderna booster.

Or I guess we should trust YouTube videos over the trained professionals who have been treating her for years.

If I had to wager a guess, if having the vaccine is likely to keep you out of the ICU, that's less money claimed against their insurance policy........whether it's an outside policy, or certain large companies who self-insure. Less claims and money paid, the better rate they can bargain for as a company next year while still raising premiums on the employees so upper-management gets larger bonuses.

So, shoot the messenger. It matters not if the message is valid for the masses and worth consideration because it literally follows the science of human biology that has been validated/quantified/demonstrated for hundreds of years now. In her case, it sounds like she had underlying health issues, in which case that particular recommendation was probably spot on.

Also, FYI, the doctor in that video is a trained professional who has been treating patients for years. If you even bothered to listen to him, you would also note that he repeatedly cites very credible sources for the concerns he's raising. It's not just like his opinion, man. But then, you'd have to be able to consider info which resides outside of the prescribed narrative.

Nope, I didn't. I figured I'd take the educated Bajingo stance and not bother to listen/read anything that might interfere with my echo chamber.

Sounds illegal.

this didn't convince you?

It was you that said the vaccine is more than 99% likely not to cause death and I commented that is the same amount by which you are likely to catch covid and not die. The last data from your reliable sources says that 43.2M cases in the US of which there have been 693K deaths. That works out to 1.6%. Of those deaths, more than 94% had co-morbidities. On the average, they had 4. Also, more than 50% were 75 years old or older (average life expectancy in the US is 78). Just discounting the cases with co-morbidities brings the total of people who strictly died of covid to less than 50k. That is a rate of .12% or a 99.88% chance that a healthy person will survive getting covid. And what is your solution to this? To require, mandate, coerce people to get vaxxed so that they can still get covid and pass it on. And six months later, take a booster, and so on.

With numbers like that, anyone with half a functioning brain will tell you that this whole thing is being blown out of proportion. You choose not to see it, that is your problem, not mine.

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For someone who doesn't care, you sure have quite a few conditions to be met to not care.

1) So consistency? Like that shown by Fauci, WHO, CDC, Biden/Harris? These are the people you believe in.

2) Hypocrisy? Same as above and possibly look in the mirror.

3) I don't know what to say to this as I don't see how it matters. Ever see that movie Shallow Hal? Maybe take a lesson from it.

4) So again, just reference point 1 and of course add the media, the medical profession, lawyers, insurance companies. They are all here for you. They all care so much about your well being. Profit is not their motive. No way, no how.

So if I ever needed to take the horse dewormer to rid of the dreadful covid claws of death, I gladly would, since it has been shown to combat the effects of covid, unlike anything coming from big pharma.

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^^ Just the reference to Ivermectin as mere "horse dewormer" is a clear indication that a person has bought into the prescribed narrative hook, line, and sinker and is likely biased against actual applied SCIENCE and proven medical studies showing its effectiveness. One of the largest causes of excess deaths in this pandemic can quite possibly be blamed on the rejection of actual methods of treatment which don't fit the narrative (as opposed to their tried and true method of "stay home and suffer until you turn blue; only then can you come to the hospital).

Lol fucking lefties. There's a difference between the government mandating something and a employer mandating something. Most Republicans argue for free market, government decrees aren't free market.

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