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Originally Posted by dieselmiata
(Post 1609258)
Because Trump was unhinged, immature, stoked conspiracy theories...
immature, I guess didn't ever seem to be a problem. but what conspiracy theories did he stoke? I'm legitimately curious. |
Same scenario on the R side of the house. Trump rode a populist wave and pushed all of the sane R's out of the running. Just because A sucks doesn't mean B doesn't also suck.
I've been in The Navy for 22 years now. I know some pretty high level brass. When they tell me that they're genuinely worried about who's at the helm, I listen. There's arguments from everyone on both sides for why THEY voted the way they did. This is mine. |
Originally Posted by Bajingo
(Post 1609260)
Unhinged I is subjective stupidity, I'd call biden unhinged.
immature, I guess didn't ever seem to be a problem. but what conspiracy theories did he stoke? I'm legitimately curious. Edit: more recently, the "rigged" election. |
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Originally Posted by dieselmiata
(Post 1609261)
Same scenario on the R side of the house. Trump rode a populist wave and pushed all of the sane R's out of the running. Just because A sucks doesn't mean B doesn't also suck.
I've been in The Navy for 22 years now. I know some pretty high level brass. When they tell me that they're genuinely worried about who's at the helm, I listen. There's arguments from everyone on both sides for why THEY voted the way they did. This is mine. |
Originally Posted by cordycord
(Post 1609265)
The fact that every promise he made he kept
Hard disagree. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...r/?ruling=true |
^^ As if any fact checking (especially political) can be believed at face value.
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Every one of those can be independently checked. Don't be lazy and disregard it because it doesn't fit your view.
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You mean like how the description of "mostly peaceful" protesting didn't fit my view? Myopia works on both sides; the left just seamlessly controls the media that promotes their take.
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No.
I disregarded your concept of "mostly peaceful" because there were fatalities. You're changing the subject because you're still upset about an argument several weeks ago. None of that changes that any one of those broken promises can be fact checked. It's not a "Left" thing. As if "The Left" is some sort of homogenous group. |
Originally Posted by dieselmiata
(Post 1609275)
...you're still upset about an argument several weeks ago. ... As you well know, data can be cherry picked to support nearly any conclusion you set out to prove. Can you seriously deny the media has not been hell bent on reporting (or not reporting) news in such a manner as to present all things Trump in the worst possible light? |
Originally Posted by dieselmiata
(Post 1609258)
Because Trump was unhinged, immature, stoked conspiracy theories...
Lesser of 2 evils and all that noise. Make Politics Boring Again. |
Originally Posted by dieselmiata
(Post 1609261)
Same scenario on the R side of the house. Trump rode a populist wave and pushed all of the sane R's out of the running. Just because A sucks doesn't mean B doesn't also suck.
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Originally Posted by good2go
(Post 1609277)
As you well know, data can be cherry picked to support nearly any conclusion you set out to prove. Can you seriously deny the media has not been hell bent on reporting (or not reporting) news in such a manner as to present all things Trump in the worst possible light? No, I won't deny that because it's true. But that's also not the discussion at hand. The assertion was made that Trump kept all of his promises. I provided proof that that is a false assertion. You appear to be asserting that my proof is false, so please provide your proof. Saying "nuh-uh, deepstate leftist media" does not refute that Trump did not keep many of his promises. |
Originally Posted by dieselmiata
(Post 1609283)
But that's also not the discussion at hand. The assertion was made that Trump kept all of his promises. I provided proof that that is a false assertion. You appear to be asserting that my proof is false, so please provide your proof. Saying "nuh-uh, deepstate leftist media" does not refute that Trump did not keep many of his promises.
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https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...r/?ruling=true
Biden's not broken one promise thus far? Why's politifact not mention the reneging on vaccine requirements? Is it because it's a biased media company? Strange. And that's what you are basing your entire argument on at this point? https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-...r-2020-1627774 |
Originally Posted by deezums
(Post 1609285)
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...r/?ruling=true
Biden's not broken one promise thus far? Why's politifact not mention the reneging on vaccine requirements? Is it because it's a biased media company? Strange. And that's what you are basing your entire argument on at this point? https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-...r-2020-1627774 I used politifact because they have an easy to read compiled list. That does not change the content. My "entire argument" is that Trump did not uphold his promises. That is easily verified. Pick your source, you'll find that I'm correct. You keep trying to turn this into a "you hate Trump so you must love Biden" thing. The world is not binary and politics isn't supposed to be a team sport. |
Originally Posted by dieselmiata
(Post 1609258)
Because Trump was unhinged, immature, stoked conspiracy theories...
Lesser of 2 evils and all that noise. Make Politics Boring Again. However, I'd like to unpack this for a moment. Those are all inflammatory, emotion statements that are repeated by the mainstream media ad nauseam. The Left media has become famous for "these are my feelings and therefore it is fact and you are hurting me, so you are wrong and must stop what you are doing". Your position comes off very thin with an emotion only response. Can you share one example each that demonstrate your position? |
Originally Posted by Diamond Dave
(Post 1609287)
NOTE: I could care less who you voted for. If you willingly voted for Joe Biden, please feel free to share what you are most excited about that he has accomplished this last month.
However, I'd like to unpack this for a moment. Those are all inflammatory, emotion statements that are repeated by the mainstream media ad nauseam. The Left media has become famous for "these are my feelings and therefore it is fact and you are hurting me, so you are wrong and must stop what you are doing". Your position comes off very thin with an emotion only response. Can you share one example each that demonstrate your position? Not sure why I'm bothering, but here are small examples IMO. I've already stated 2 conspiracies he pushed so I won't revisit that. Unhinged: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...ump-boy-scouts Immature: https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2febdf5b00.jpg |
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