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#2581
The so called Republican/Libertarians had control of all three branches many of years preceding the collapse. And like all Republican administrations in my life time they grew government while giving tax breaks disproportionally to the rich thus increased the deficit and selectively deregulated in some areas and ran with complete incompetence in other areas resulting in bad consequences.
There is still a lot of damage the last regime did that has yet to be un-done thanks to idiots in congress.
#2582
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The so called Republican/Libertarians had control of all three branches many of years preceding the collapse. And like all Republican administrations in my life time they grew government while giving tax breaks disproportionally to the rich thus increased the deficit and selectively deregulated in some areas and ran with complete incompetence in other areas resulting in bad consequences.
There is still a lot of damage the last regime did that has yet to be un-done thanks to idiots in congress.
The so called Republican/Libertarians had control of all three branches many of years preceding the collapse. And like all Republican administrations in my life time they grew government while giving tax breaks disproportionally to the rich thus increased the deficit and selectively deregulated in some areas and ran with complete incompetence in other areas resulting in bad consequences.
There is still a lot of damage the last regime did that has yet to be un-done thanks to idiots in congress.
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#2585
I'm still confused there, man.
They had control of all 3 houses for 2 sessions that he was talking about, and argubly a third session (50/50 split, note the D*), as well as had control of the house and the senate for many years beforehand.
They had control of all 3 houses for 2 sessions that he was talking about, and argubly a third session (50/50 split, note the D*), as well as had control of the house and the senate for many years beforehand.
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No tent cities, no lines around the block for soup kitchens, etc. The economy is quite bad, but much better than the last comparable time around.
#2587
Really? Compared to the Great Depression (the last time we had a huge global banking/financial crisis combined with a major drought in the USA), it seems like we are doing a lot better than then.
No tent cities, no lines around the block for soup kitchens, etc. The economy is quite bad, but much better than the last comparable time around.
No tent cities, no lines around the block for soup kitchens, etc. The economy is quite bad, but much better than the last comparable time around.
I don't know if Hoover coined the phrase "rugged individualism", but basically it was about hard work and self-sufficiency. (I'm going back to 10th grade here) He lost to Roosevelt in the 1932 election and the Democrats gained control of Congress because Hoover refused to "save" the country by simply giving people money. I know that's a simplistic way of looking at things, but he believed social welfare was inherently evil and should be the responsibility of state and local gov'ts, not the Federal Govt.
Roosevelt, with his "New Deals" and "First 100 days" was the birth of the modern social welfare system. The economy (of the world) sort of recovered over the next 10 years just in time for WWII.
As I look at our current system and how much "better" it is, I wonder if we wouldn't be better served by replacing food-stamps and welfare checks with soup lines.
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#2588
Human cycles: History as science : Nature News & Comment
Interesting reading. I'm not certain if I buy into it, but it definitely makes for an interesting theory - and it's easily testable over the next few years too.
Interesting reading. I'm not certain if I buy into it, but it definitely makes for an interesting theory - and it's easily testable over the next few years too.
#2589
Am I the only one who is in favor of restricting child birth? I mean, you can be any age and have a child, and it seems it's turning into a problem. As of two days ago I have to start using my toes to count all the friends of mine that have/are having kids. Only one....ONE is planned and in a financially responsible home. Is it going too far to suggest birth control in the water or reversible procedures for sterilization at birth? We don't have a "lack of children" crisis in this country, but we do have a "Holy shit I am completely, 100% unfit and too much of a piece of shit to raise a child" issue. Then there's the same sex couple/marriage "they can't raise children" bullshit that's going on now.
14 and got knocked up by some high school dude? Of course you can have your child! It's gods miracle!
Two financially and emotionally responsible adult men want to have a child? Fuck no you sick faggettes!!!!
lol! Who wants to put money down that she is a single parent and dependent on government aid?
14 and got knocked up by some high school dude? Of course you can have your child! It's gods miracle!
Two financially and emotionally responsible adult men want to have a child? Fuck no you sick faggettes!!!!
lol! Who wants to put money down that she is a single parent and dependent on government aid?
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#2591
Am I the only one who is in favor of restricting child birth? I mean, you can be any age and have a child, and it seems it's turning into a problem. As of two days ago I have to start using my toes to count all the friends of mine that have/are having kids. Only one....ONE is planned and in a financially responsible home. Is it going too far to suggest birth control in the water or reversible procedures for sterilization at birth? We don't have a "lack of children" crisis in this country, but we do have a "Holy shit I am completely, 100% unfit and too much of a piece of shit to raise a child" issue. Then there's the same sex couple/marriage "they can't raise children" bullshit that's going on now.
14 and got knocked up by some high school dude? Of course you can have your child! It's gods miracle!
Two financially and emotionally responsible adult men want to have a child? Fuck no you sick faggettes!!!!
lol! Who wants to put money down that she is a single parent and dependent on government aid?
14 and got knocked up by some high school dude? Of course you can have your child! It's gods miracle!
Two financially and emotionally responsible adult men want to have a child? Fuck no you sick faggettes!!!!
lol! Who wants to put money down that she is a single parent and dependent on government aid?
#2592
So, anyone else follow 538 here? (Ref: Election Forecasts - FiveThirtyEight Blog - NYTimes.com )
It's interesting to see some of the polling for various states, although I am surprised that Obama is pulling away from Romney in most polls now.
P.S. Inb4 the derp, the dude called the '08 elections far closer than anyone else, and uses mathematical models - not his personal opinions - to generate his predictions.
It's interesting to see some of the polling for various states, although I am surprised that Obama is pulling away from Romney in most polls now.
P.S. Inb4 the derp, the dude called the '08 elections far closer than anyone else, and uses mathematical models - not his personal opinions - to generate his predictions.
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So, anyone else follow 538 here? (Ref: Election Forecasts - FiveThirtyEight Blog - NYTimes.com )
It's interesting to see some of the polling for various states, although I am surprised that Obama is pulling away from Romney in most polls now.
P.S. Inb4 the derp, the dude called the '08 elections far closer than anyone else, and uses mathematical models - not his personal opinions - to generate his predictions.
It's interesting to see some of the polling for various states, although I am surprised that Obama is pulling away from Romney in most polls now.
P.S. Inb4 the derp, the dude called the '08 elections far closer than anyone else, and uses mathematical models - not his personal opinions - to generate his predictions.
#2596
Really? Compared to the Great Depression (the last time we had a huge global banking/financial crisis combined with a major drought in the USA), it seems like we are doing a lot better than then.
No tent cities, no lines around the block for soup kitchens, etc. The economy is quite bad, but much better than the last comparable time around.
No tent cities, no lines around the block for soup kitchens, etc. The economy is quite bad, but much better than the last comparable time around.
You probably also know about the tent cities outside of Sacramento now. Right? Soup kitchens? Normal. I have a friend who runs one in Washington DC--business is booming.
#2598
Thanks for proving my point. 10 year period with most republican/libertarian control of government, 1995-2005 and really 6 years they had control of all three branches for the only time in history. We got un-funded un-warranted wars, huge upward shift in wealth distribution and a giant bursting economic bubble aided by selective deregulation and government incompetence. An explosion in the amount of lobbying money rained on congress. The worst period of government since the 1930’s. And their economic growth policy of Handing out free money and tax breaks to corporations and the super wealthy that we are still practicing has failed to create job growth.
So yes, whether in good times or bad, the rich are always bad.
Personally, I don't know of one private person who wouldn't sign onto a flat tax or a consumption tax. I don't know of one business owner who wouldn't agree to closing all loopholes so everyone had a level playing field.
You think Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid would agree? I heard Harry just signed up a big Chinese solar job in his home state. State land was given at a 1/10th of the cost, and his son is doing the legal work on the project.
#2599
So, anyone else follow 538 here? (Ref: Election Forecasts - FiveThirtyEight Blog - NYTimes.com )
It's interesting to see some of the polling for various states, although I am surprised that Obama is pulling away from Romney in most polls now.
P.S. Inb4 the derp, the dude called the '08 elections far closer than anyone else, and uses mathematical models - not his personal opinions - to generate his predictions.
It's interesting to see some of the polling for various states, although I am surprised that Obama is pulling away from Romney in most polls now.
P.S. Inb4 the derp, the dude called the '08 elections far closer than anyone else, and uses mathematical models - not his personal opinions - to generate his predictions.
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#2600
Those unfunded, unwarranted wars were signed on by Bill & Hillary, John Kerry and every other major Democrat, AS WELL AS CONGRESS. And while the rich were getting richer, SO WAS EVERYBODY ELSE!
So yes, whether in good times or bad, the rich are always bad.
Personally, I don't know of one private person who wouldn't sign onto a flat tax or a consumption tax. I don't know of one business owner who wouldn't agree to closing all loopholes so everyone had a level playing field.
You think Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid would agree? I heard Harry just signed up a big Chinese solar job in his home state. State land was given at a 1/10th of the cost, and his son is doing the legal work on the project.
So yes, whether in good times or bad, the rich are always bad.
Personally, I don't know of one private person who wouldn't sign onto a flat tax or a consumption tax. I don't know of one business owner who wouldn't agree to closing all loopholes so everyone had a level playing field.
You think Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid would agree? I heard Harry just signed up a big Chinese solar job in his home state. State land was given at a 1/10th of the cost, and his son is doing the legal work on the project.
I’m for eliminating pretty most all loopholes and retain a slightly progressive income tax at the federal level And All forms of income being treated the same for tax purposes.
Romney’s tax plan is basically to make the tax rate for his class of un-earned income extractors or so called job creators (doublespeak right there) zero while eliminating existing tax loopholes for the poor and middle class ~98% of everybody else to pay for it claiming his plan is revenue neutral.
Its just class warfare he is proposing. It will most likely lead to decline and distruction of the nation.