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Erat 07-25-2018 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1493272)

I actually take my flag down, fold it up, and put it away every night. Because i'm way to cheap to light it.

sixshooter 07-25-2018 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1493394)
I actually take my flag down, fold it up, and put it away every night. Because i'm way to cheap to light it.

Good man.

Mine is lit by a 24hr florescent lamp.

olderguy 07-26-2018 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1493398)
Good man.

Mine is lit by a 24hr florescent lamp.

Mine has been lighted for 20+ years by two 50 watt bulbs. Wonder what THAT has cost me ;-(

Probably more than I donated to Trump campaign.

samnavy 07-26-2018 02:01 AM

Every house on every street in my whole neighborhood flies a flag... granted, I live on a military base.

Braineack 07-26-2018 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1493394)
I actually take my flag down, fold it up, and put it away every night. Because i'm way to cheap to light it.

I flew one when i moved, but I got lazy about it, and it got pretty tattered and been too lazy to buy a better quality one.

Braineack 07-26-2018 10:27 AM

how to iron your knees:

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...e2&oe=5C0CA940

Braineack 07-26-2018 10:28 AM

morning Joe!

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...52&oe=5C0CA7D1

bonus: at least it was most likely true for once.

Braineack 07-26-2018 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1493285)
Nah, bro. Venezuela didn't implement *real* socialism. You gotta do it right in order for it to work.

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...02&oe=5C0B5297

Braineack 07-26-2018 10:30 AM

how to California:

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...1b&oe=5C0ACD67

Joe Perez 07-26-2018 11:58 AM

Saw this posted recently:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2e3963d40e.png

It serves as a reminder to me of why the present-day political discourse is much more complex than many people assume. The post, which I believe reflects the true sentiments of many people in the liberal-democrat realm, presupposes as fact that being a conservative is fully equivalent to being a Nazi.

It doesn't ask the question, it doesn't draw a parallel, it just accepts that supposition as fact, and then uses it as evidence for why people who support conservative viewpoints are just as irrational as people who believe that the earth is flat.

And, truthfully, I don't think it's intended as satire as hyperbole. This really is what people at the extreme-left believe.


Since WWII, there have always been a tiny minority of Americans who believe that Nazism was a net-positive. We refer to them by terms such as "skinhead" or "neo-nazi." Personally, I don't see a great deal of similarity between these people and people who oppose the nationalization of private industry, the repeal of significant portions of the Constitution, and the unlimited expansion of socialist policy in the US. If anything, such viewpoints are antithetical to the core tenets of Nazism.

Braineack 07-26-2018 12:31 PM

how to deal with socialist governments:



> be Facebook
> give all your intellectual property to the Chinese so you can gain billions of new Chinese users
> basically prostrate yourself to the communist government
> commies kick you out anyway and make their own fb
> they do this the day after Facebook loses 25% of its stock value

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/25/1...d-china-censor


Just one day after Facebook gained permission to open a subsidiary in China, the government pulled the business filing and began to censor mentions of the news. An anonymous source tells The New York Times that Facebook no longer has permission to launch the startup incubator it had planned.

Facebook planned to open up a $30 million subsidiary called Facebook Technology (Hangzhou) and run a startup incubator that would have made small investments and gave advice to local businesses.

why even bother?

Schroedinger 07-26-2018 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1493502)
Saw this posted recently:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2e3963d40e.png

It serves as a reminder to me of why the present-day political discourse is much more complex than many people assume. The post, which I believe reflects the true sentiments of many people in the liberal-democrat realm, presupposes as fact that being a conservative is fully equivalent to being a Nazi.

It doesn't ask the question, it doesn't draw a parallel, it just accepts that supposition as fact, and then uses it as evidence for why people who support conservative viewpoints are just as irrational as people who believe that the earth is flat.

And, truthfully, I don't think it's intended as satire as hyperbole. This really is what people at the extreme-left believe.


Since WWII, there have always been a tiny minority of Americans who believe that Nazism was a net-positive. We refer to them by terms such as "skinhead" or "neo-nazi." Personally, I don't see a great deal of similarity between these people and people who oppose the nationalization of private industry, the repeal of significant portions of the Constitution, and the unlimited expansion of socialist policy in the US. If anything, such viewpoints are antithetical to the core tenets of Nazism.

A few off-the-cuff responses:
- I think you’re reading way too much into that.
- Maybe some liberals really think that all conservatives are nazis. Maybe like 1%? They are idiots.
- There are also conservatives who think that all liberals and progressives are communists. They are also idiots.
- The earth is objectively round, and nazis are objectively bad.

Braineack 07-26-2018 01:05 PM

100% of all non-conservative social media users believe conservatives are 100% nazis.

i love this quote by one of the greatest minds:

To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil.

other gems:

It is an old liberal theme that conservative ideas, being red in tooth and claw, cannot possibly emerge from any notion of the public good.

For liberals, the observation that 'the peasants are revolting' is a pun. For conservatives, it is cause for uncharacteristic optimism. No matter how far the ideological pendulum swings in the short term, in the end the bedrock common sense of the American people will prevail.

I was a Great Society liberal on domestic issues. People ask me, 'How do you go from Walter Mondale to Fox News?' The answer is, 'I was young once.' End of answer.

It doesn’t take a genius to see what happens when the entitlement state outgrows the economy upon which it rests. The time of Greece, Cyprus, Portugal, Spain, the rest of insolvent social-democratic Europe — and now Detroit — is the time for conservatives to raise the banner of Stein's Law and yell, ‘Stop.’ You can kick the can down the road, but at some point it disappears over a cliff.

The free lunch is the essence of modern liberalism.

The left is entering a new phase of ideological agitation — no longer trying to win the debate but stopping debate altogether, banishing from public discourse any and all opposition. The proper word for that attitude is totalitarian. It declares certain controversies over and visits serious consequences — from social ostracism to vocational defenestration — upon those who refuse to be silenced.



and sadly his last:

I believe that the pursuit of truth and right ideas through honest debate and rigorous argument is a noble undertaking. I am grateful to have played a small role in the conversations that have helped guide this extraordinary nation’s destiny... I leave this life with no regrets. It was a wonderful life — full and complete with the great loves and great endeavors that make it worth living. I am sad to leave, but I leave with the knowledge that I lived the life that I intended.​​​​​​​

Joe Perez 07-26-2018 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Schroedinger (Post 1493510)
- Maybe some liberals really think that all conservatives are nazis. Maybe like 1%? They are idiots.
- There are also conservatives who think that all liberals and progressives are communists. They are also idiots.

I used to think that the number was extremely small, and that this tiny minority was simply much louder than average.

I still believe that the extremists are more vocal than those with more moderate views, however I am no longer convinced that they are as small a minority as I once thought. The number of individuals who I see expressing extreme viewpoints seems to be growing, with those at the extreme-left growing much faster as they are fueled by a positive-feedback distortion amplifier.


And as to the second point, yes, I consider that axiomatic. If one exists at the extreme end of any political ideology (or any non-political ideology, for that matter), then one tends to perceive those at the opposite extreme end to be stupid / wrong / idiotic / evil / etc.






Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1493513)
100% of all non-conservative social media users believe conservatives are 100% nazis.

Perez' second law: "As a broad generalization, broad generalizations tend to be flawed."

Skamba 07-26-2018 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1493513)
100% of all non-conservative social media users believe conservatives are 100% nazis.

i love this quote by one of the greatest minds:

To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil.

other gems:

It is an old liberal theme that conservative ideas, being red in tooth and claw, cannot possibly emerge from any notion of the public good.

For liberals, the observation that 'the peasants are revolting' is a pun. For conservatives, it is cause for uncharacteristic optimism. No matter how far the ideological pendulum swings in the short term, in the end the bedrock common sense of the American people will prevail.

I was a Great Society liberal on domestic issues. People ask me, 'How do you go from Walter Mondale to Fox News?' The answer is, 'I was young once.' End of answer.

It doesn’t take a genius to see what happens when the entitlement state outgrows the economy upon which it rests. The time of Greece, Cyprus, Portugal, Spain, the rest of insolvent social-democratic Europe — and now Detroit — is the time for conservatives to raise the banner of Stein's Law and yell, ‘Stop.’ You can kick the can down the road, but at some point it disappears over a cliff.

The free lunch is the essence of modern liberalism.

The left is entering a new phase of ideological agitation — no longer trying to win the debate but stopping debate altogether, banishing from public discourse any and all opposition. The proper word for that attitude is totalitarian. It declares certain controversies over and visits serious consequences — from social ostracism to vocational defenestration — upon those who refuse to be silenced.



and sadly his last:

I believe that the pursuit of truth and right ideas through honest debate and rigorous argument is a noble undertaking. I am grateful to have played a small role in the conversations that have helped guide this extraordinary nation’s destiny... I leave this life with no regrets. It was a wonderful life — full and complete with the great loves and great endeavors that make it worth living. I am sad to leave, but I leave with the knowledge that I lived the life that I intended.​​​​​​​

I also like these quotes from him:

In Trump World, the better angels are not in evidence.To be sure, Trump is indeed examining the pardon power. For himself and his cronies.

I leave it to the lawyers to adjudicate the legalities of unconsummated collusion. But you don’t need a lawyer to see that the Trump defense — collusion as a desperate Democratic fiction designed to explain away a lost election — is now officially dead.

Trump was elected to do politically incorrect — and needed — things like withdrawing from Paris. He was not elected to do crazy things, starting with his tweets. If he cannot distinguish between the two, Trump Derangement Syndrome will only become epidemic.



Braineack 07-26-2018 02:37 PM

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...37&oe=5BC63946

Braineack 07-26-2018 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Skamba (Post 1493520)
Trump was elected to do politically incorrect — and needed — things like withdrawing from Paris. He was not elected to do crazy things, starting with his tweets. If he cannot distinguish between the two, Trump Derangement Syndrome will only become epidemic.

Mueller Examining Trump’s Tweets in Wide-Ranging Obstruction Inquiry


dont worry chuck, Mueller will find the collusion in them.

Braineack 07-27-2018 08:16 AM

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...87&oe=5BD966C7

Joe Perez 07-27-2018 08:19 AM

[LIB]

The German Far-Right are fighting to maintain ethnic purity in the Fatherland.

[/LIB]

Braineack 07-27-2018 08:27 AM

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