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Joe Perez 08-18-2018 09:43 AM

Knowing that a lot of folks think that us city-dwellers are just drowning under the tax burden, I noticed something today.

My vehicle registration renewal is coming up. I couldn't remember the exact date, so I pulled out my registration slip from last year to check. While doing so, I noticed the renewal fee:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6cf127d4ae.png

Three dollars.

I'm pretty sure that's what a horse-carriage licence cost in 1868.

Anypony out there in suburbanland got a lower registration fee than this?

rleete 08-18-2018 10:31 AM

Hell, mine goes up by more than that each year.

sixshooter 08-18-2018 11:19 AM

I think mine for the Miata was like 23 or something.

Erat 08-18-2018 11:38 AM

I'm at almost $200.

Roda 08-18-2018 02:17 PM

If I didn't have the vanity plate on the NA it would be $12 here in AZ.

Our '17 Ram 3500 dually was over $800... :ky:

For $3, they should just make it permanent... it's not worth the handling costs.

samnavy 08-18-2018 02:28 PM

$5 here in Hawaii.

Skamba 08-18-2018 03:10 PM

Is that basically your road taxes? My MX5 is about 470 euro/year, my diesel Volvo about 1600.

Joe Perez 08-18-2018 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Skamba (Post 1497153)
Is that basically your road taxes?

Not specifically. While it varies by state, vehicle registration fees tend to go into the general budget, rather than being reserved for road maintenance.

In the US, fuel is taxed at around 15-20% (combination of Federal and State, the latter of which varies by state), and, in theory, this is the tax which funds the roads. And, yes, I recognize that this is a vastly lower fuel tax rate than is common in European nations.

Braineack 08-18-2018 03:35 PM

I pay property taxes on my cats each year (which is determined by the value of the cat, making it very anti-1%er), plus yearly registration, plus annual safety inspection, plus bi-annual emissions checks.

seriously, the fact that my cat costs more than someone else's make zero sense in the collection of taxes for it, except for exploiting the rich -- like government loves to do so these fucking fucks with no insurance can drive their $500 pos on nice roads -- that is of course when the state/county decides to actually use those funds for the intended purpose.

Braineack 08-18-2018 03:38 PM

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https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5c&oe=5C0E66AF

Erat 08-18-2018 04:52 PM

They have been doing this in San Diego for a while now.

The city ended up installing porta johns. Right across from City Hall too...

Joe Perez 08-18-2018 05:10 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4dbb938518.png

triple88a 08-19-2018 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1497113)

How the fuck? My 99 has been 107 every year for as long as i can remember.

Skamba 08-19-2018 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1497156)
Not specifically. While it varies by state, vehicle registration fees tend to go into the general budget, rather than being reserved for road maintenance.

In the US, fuel is taxed at around 15-20% (combination of Federal and State, the latter of which varies by state), and, in theory, this is the tax which funds the roads. And, yes, I recognize that this is a vastly lower fuel tax rate than is common in European nations.

In the Netherlands, less than 25% of the 'road taxes' go to road maintenance. I guess in both cases, it's money you pay yearly to the government for owning a car.

Braineack 08-19-2018 12:10 PM

no bias, no care.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...dc&oe=5C0A8A71

Chiburbian 08-19-2018 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1497211)
How the fuck? My 99 has been 107 every year for as long as i can remember.

Same. Really strange.

thirdgen 08-19-2018 05:15 PM

107?!? I think I pay $36

buffon01 08-20-2018 09:18 AM

$40 in Michigan.

Joe Perez 08-20-2018 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1497211)
How the fuck? My 99 has been 107 every year for as long as i can remember.


Originally Posted by Chiburbian (Post 1497248)
Same. Really strange.

I can only assume that the long and rather bizarre registration history of this car has somehow allowed me to slip through some crack in the system similar to the one that lets a certain other MT member's massively-illegally-modified '99 to be de-facto exempt from emissions inspection in CA.

Not a salvage title, BTW. Clean (albeit lengthy) history all the way back to the original purchase.


Braineack 08-20-2018 12:47 PM

when liberals get democratic:

https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...4ffb648ea5c53b


THE South African government has begun the process of seizing land from white farmers.

Local newspaper City Press reports two game farms in the northern province of Limpopo are the first to be targeted for unilateral seizure after negotiations with the owners to purchase the properties stalled.

While the government says it intends to pay, owners Akkerland Boerdery wanted 200 million rand ($18.7 million) for the land — they’re being offered just 20 million rand ($1.87 million).

“Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farms on April 5, 2018 at 10am in order to conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm’s keys to the state,” a letter sent to the owners earlier this year said.

...

Last week, ANC chairman Gwede Mantashe sparked panic among the farming community when he said: “You shouldn’t own more than 25,000 acres of land.

“Therefore if you own more it should be taken without compensation.

South Africa farm seizures: The proposal was announced by Cyril Ramaphosa (Image: GETTY)“People who are privileged never give away privilege as a matter of a gift.

“And that is why we say, to give you the tools, revisit the constitution so that you have a legal tool to do it.”

A record number of white South African farmers have put their land up for sale amid fears the ruling party is considering confiscating properties bigger than 25,000 acres.

The government was accused of drawing up a list of almost 200 farms it allegedly wants to seize from white farmers, with AfriForum, a civil rights group representing the white Afrikaner minority, adding the document was being circulated by ministers as the ruling powers prepare to implement the policy.

It invited farmers to check if they were on it and urged them to make contact “so we can prepare a joint legal strategy”.



watch them all start raiding zoos for food now...


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