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Erat 11-05-2020 02:19 PM

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Erat 11-05-2020 04:07 PM

Help me understand this.

​​​​​​Is this exactly what it sounds like. And does a bunch of other states do this? Isn't this unconstitutional? How / why are states allowed to supersede the constitution?

Maybe I don't fully understand what this means.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/col...ar-vote-winner

So if the vote is red in the state and blue nationally the state will award all it's electoral votes to blue?

Joe Perez 11-05-2020 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1585192)
How / why are states allowed to supersede the constitution?

The constitution does not dictate the manner in which each state chooses its electors. If a state decides to disregard the will of its citizens and instead allocate its electoral votes in another manner, that's not something which existing federal or constitutional law expressly forbids.

Things like this make concern me. I'm not a big fan of hyperbole, but this is the sort of thing which has the potential to lead us all to a rather serious place.

Braineack 11-05-2020 04:45 PM

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Roda 11-05-2020 04:45 PM

IMHO, we're already in a rather serious place. The electoral college was intended specifically to prevent what Colorda appears to want, but then most of our Federal government has been operating in ways it was never intended to.

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Erat 11-05-2020 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1585194)
The constitution does not dictate the manner in which each state chooses its electors. If a state decides to disregard the will of its citizens and instead allocate its electoral votes in another manner, that's not something which existing federal or constitutional law expressly forbids.

Things like this make concern me. I'm not a big fan of hyperbole, but this is the sort of thing which has the potential to lead us all to a rather serious place.

Seems like a bit of an oversight.

But thank you.

Joe Perez 11-05-2020 09:20 PM

The constitution was written by people who trusted the people to act rationally.

It was a different time...



In other news,

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stratosteve 11-05-2020 09:36 PM

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Joe Perez 11-05-2020 09:44 PM

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wackbards 11-05-2020 10:54 PM

I redact fake news.

hector 11-06-2020 07:39 AM

Now I'm not saying there is voter fraud but there sure are some curious results. Just looking at the popular vote, Biden has 8 million more votes than Hillary and he wasn't "my first choice, or my second choice, or my....." to many blue voters supposedly.

And looking at Arizona, a state that didn't give the nod to super popular Obama in either election. The last time Arizona was blue was for Clinton's second term. And the last time it was blue before that, well....... Then there is the almost 400,000 more votes for Biden than Hillary. Trump got about 150,000 more votes than in 2016 and Arizona's estimated population grew about 300,000 since 2016. So there is about 500,000 more votes in Arizona right now than in 2016 for a population that grew estimated less than that with a voter turnout that was already fairly high back in 2016 at 74%. I'm not saying this is proof of fraud, nor that it's impossible. I'm just saying it's rather curious.

And lastly, my next door neighbor who is a staunch Never Trumper spent this week in Arizona. Coincidence? I don't think so! Where is that damn Ancient Aliens meme. Here it is.

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shuiend 11-06-2020 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by wackbards (Post 1585216)
I redact fake news.

Good. Don't be like Braineack.

hector 11-06-2020 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1585236)
Good. Don't be like Braineack.

Now if only the fake news would redact their fake news.....

shuiend 11-06-2020 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by hector (Post 1585235)
Now I'm not saying there is voter fraud but there sure are some curious results. Just looking at the popular vote, Biden has 8 million more votes than Hillary and he wasn't "my first choice, or my second choice, or my....." to many blue voters supposedly.

And looking at Arizona, a state that didn't give the nod to super popular Obama in either election. The last time Arizona was blue was for Clinton's second term. And the last time it was blue before that, well....... Then there is the almost 400,000 more votes for Biden than Hillary. Trump got about 150,000 more votes than in 2016 and Arizona's estimated population grew about 300,000 since 2016. So there is about 500,000 more votes in Arizona right now than in 2016 for a population that grew estimated less than that with a voter turnout that was already fairly high back in 2016 at 74%. I'm not saying this is proof of fraud, nor that it's impossible. I'm just saying it's rather curious.

And lastly, my next door neighbor who is a staunch Never Trumper spent this week in Arizona. Coincidence? I don't think so! Where is that damn Ancient Aliens meme. Here it is.


I mean talking to shit about McCain for forever might make the state that loves him not vote for you.

hector 11-06-2020 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1585238)
I mean talking to shit about McCain for forever might make the state that loves him not vote for you.

Sure I'll give you that. But he was talking shit about him in 2016.

And again, I'm not saying the numbers are impossible but that's a lot of new voters or a massive uptick in voter turnout.

Also, I don't live in Arizona nor did I visit it during this time. For all I know, the Dems were there heavily campaigning and they did their job. Plus not to mention all the media bombardment against Trump the last four years have been in vain. I'm positive it has had an impact.

So again, I'm not saying this is evidence of voter fraud. I just find the results curious.

Roda 11-06-2020 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1585238)
I mean talking to shit about McCain for forever might make the state that loves him not vote for you.

Most Republicans in AZ detested McCain. Mark Kelly is McLame reincarnated, but at least he's actually admitted being a Democrat.

It has nothing to do with McCain... it's all about the influx of liberal locusts that destroyed their home states, and have moved here and are working on ours. And vote fraud. Maricopa county (Phoenix) is heavily democrat controlled as is Tucson.

Joe Perez 11-06-2020 08:42 AM

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Godless Commie 11-06-2020 08:58 AM

Looks like Biden just said PAGA.

(He is leading in PA and GA)

Bajingo 11-06-2020 09:04 AM

I think it's fishy that Trump can easy win Florida but everywhere else is Biden? Just doesn't make sense.

Joe Perez 11-06-2020 09:06 AM

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