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Joe Perez 11-12-2020 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by LeoNA (Post 1585843)
You need a description of the process to convince you that it could have potentially been on purpose? Your in denial and I don’t know how to argue with that, but your not alone. They don’t care about their people. They have plausible deniability if they have some infections. That is why they have the upper hand in this type warfare. Let me put this way. If the probability is relatively low this is still extremely important to consider because of how serious it is.

What am I in denial of?

Do you take me for a Trump supporter? I am not. I believe I've made that clear.

However, I value rationality. No matter what your political affiliation, making wild speculative claims devalues the validity of your position.

And I completely agree that the Coronavirus situation was a deciding factor in the outcome of the election. Nobody is questioning that.

What I'm asking is for an explanation of how and why you believe these supposed actions took place.

LeoNA 11-12-2020 09:06 PM

Obviously your not a Trump supporter and this is much more important then just the election. Much more. Other then infecting someone to spread it what else is there that you need to know? I think it is somewhat self explanatory which because of its simplicity makes it hard to except and prove. I have explained what I believe is the motive, how it would be developed and distributed. What else do you need?

In ca we have a tremendous amount of tourism from Asia, so does Italy and the rest of the world. A country that believes it citizens are property and has over 1billion of them is not concerned about some casualties especially if this was viewed as war. Some day we may find out that it was developed and proven on some of their remote villages. Just an FYI the regular influenza is believed to be exactly what I’m describing. I did not invent this theory it’s over 40yrs old.

deezums 11-12-2020 09:38 PM

If we think china engineered the virus then releasing it on their own people shouldn't be a big deal. Brainy likes to post the graph of china's cases flat lining, coincidence?!

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/h...separate-china

https://www.nature.com/news/engineer...search-1.18787

Personally, I don't think it's too far outside the realm of possibility. Not at all.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...-data-suggests

But I guess it's decent at killing people from South Asia? Again, coincidence?

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53097676

stratosteve 11-12-2020 10:57 PM

Remember back in Dec of 2019, when videos started to emerge of chinese people walking around like zombies and then falling and presumably dying right there? I know I wasnt the only one concerned as rumors started circulating of some type of plague beginning. Along comes covid and the symptoms dont match. I think now, the video releases were just propaganda, to start the fear mongering.

Joe, I guess you havent listened to any of the chinese virologist interviews. She defected to the US some months ago. Says the virus is a bio weapon. She sure could be lying, IDK. Her mom was arrested back home due to her speaking out. Seems kinda dumb to lie about it. Put on a set of "this was a bio weapon" glasses and view everything that has happened this year, with them on. Start seeing all the coincidences in an election year.

Joe Perez 11-13-2020 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by LeoNA (Post 1585847)
In ca we have a tremendous amount of tourism from Asia, so does Italy and the rest of the world. A country that believes it citizens are property and has over 1billion of them is not concerned about some casualties especially if this was viewed as war. Some day we may find out that it was developed and proven on some of their remote villages.

Obviously there is plenty of evidence that totalitarian-communist governments do not value the lives of their citizens. Russia during WWII, North Korea during the Korean war, North Vietnam during the Vietnamese war, etc. This is old news.




Originally Posted by LeoNA (Post 1585847)
Just an FYI the regular influenza is believed to be exactly what I’m describing. I did not invent this theory it’s over 40yrs old.

So, the regular influenza was engineered in a lab as a weapon to be used against political opponents of the state?

Braineack 11-13-2020 08:27 AM

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Braineack 11-13-2020 08:37 AM

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Braineack 11-13-2020 08:44 AM

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Braineack 11-13-2020 08:45 AM

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Braineack 11-13-2020 09:50 AM

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that's a lot of votes they wanna throw out here...

fooger03 11-13-2020 10:48 AM

What if China's goal was neither to elect a republican or a democrat? What if China's goal was (and still is) only to further increase the division among Americans and distrust in our government, regardless of the election outcome...

Joe Perez 11-13-2020 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1585874)
(The Mayor of Chicago)

Yeah, the most recent order is kind of... odd.

I'm quoting directly from the city's Covid-19 website, in which I have emphasized a certain passage:

"Beginning on Monday, November 16, 2020, residents are advised to stay at home in response to the rapid rise of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations in the city and only leave home to go to work or school, or for essential needs..."




Also, do you find it suspicious that the tweets which you posted a screenshot of seem to suggest that the Mayor changer her username between Nov 7 and today?

Suspicious, as in meaning that those three tweets were not all made by the same person, and so the screenshot implies a conundrum where none exists?

Joe Perez 11-13-2020 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 1585888)
What if China's goal was (and still is) only to further increase the division among Americans and distrust in our government, regardless of the election outcome...

It would strongly suggest that the government of China is acting against its own self-interest, which is not something that they are known for, traditionally.

LeoNA 11-13-2020 11:12 AM

There are many including the CDC that have wondered if this is the case with influenza and bio/germ weapons do not have to be developed or proven in a lab. They can be naturally occurring. The utilization can be on purpose. Just take some time to think about the ramifications.


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1585859)
So, the regular influenza was engineered in a lab as a weapon to be used against political opponents of the state?

I believe this is definitely a motive of many nations. It is a global market, a competition and there are many that would like to have the US's economy. I have also heard that that china wants to be the hero by coming up with a vaccine to save the world. They will also monetarily benefit. They have had a vaccine for months and have been distributing them to other nations.


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 1585888)
What if China's goal was neither to elect a republican or a democrat? What if China's goal was (and still is) only to further increase the division among Americans and distrust in our government, regardless of the election outcome...


Braineack 11-13-2020 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1585889)
Also, do you find it suspicious that the tweets which you posted a screenshot of seem to suggest that the Mayor changer her username between Nov 7 and today?

Suspicious, as in meaning that those three tweets were not all made by the same person, and so the screenshot implies a conundrum where none exists?

Does that matter? It still includes a picture of her out and about after the election celebrating without a mask on, in a huge crowd.

Stock 11-13-2020 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Godless Commie (Post 1585842)
Go look up the definition of "suggestion" before calling me names.

I'll take that L on a technicality. My apologizes sir.

Braineack 11-13-2020 12:54 PM

Are Ultraviolet-C (UVC) Radiation lamps effective in preventing COVID-19?

UVC radiation is a known disinfectant for air, water, and nonporous surfaces. UVC radiation has effectively been used for decades to reduce the spread of bacteria, such as tuberculosis. For this reason, UVC lamps are often called "germicidal" lamps.

UVC radiation has been shown to destroy the outer protein coating of the SARS-Coronavirus, which is a different virus from the current SARS-CoV-2 virus. The destruction ultimately leads to inactivation of the virus. UVC radiation may also be effective in inactivating the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which is the virus that causes the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).


And if we are being this semantical about it:


[Trump] suggested we could just inject disinfectant in our bodies to combat Covid garnered a ton of disdain than anything else.
Where does Trump suggest we can "just inject disinfectant in our bodies to combat Covid?"

Here YOU are suggesting that Trump told the public you CAN inject disinfectant in our bodies to combat Covid. This is simply not true and the video you post does NOT support your argument.

Maybe you should look up the definition of the following words, Commie:
  • You
  • Are
  • Going
  • Test
  • Supposing
  • Is

Efini~FC3S 11-13-2020 12:57 PM

This dudes recent videos have been on point:


Efini~FC3S 11-13-2020 01:00 PM

My favorite is the situation where Biden and Trump tie then end up the President and VP respectively...

Then Biden dies or has a massive stroke and then Trump becomes president.

I couldn’t imagine a more perfect trolling of the left then that series of events...



Joe Perez 11-13-2020 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1585905)
Does that matter? It still includes a picture of her out and about after the election celebrating without a mask on, in a huge crowd.

Our mayor is a hypocrite. Nobody is claiming otherwise.


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