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shuiend 11-12-2020 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1585778)
problem is votes :ne: people who voted.

unless you believe governments are perfect, without fraud and abuse -- especially when implementing a last-minute easily manipulated method of voting without audit or error checking...

cause the fed itself didn't mail 1.1 million stimulus checks to dead people or anything [only recovering about 70% of it] ...

Go show the actual evidence then. Every "dead person" the right media has flouted has turned out to be false. All the weird jumps in numbers have been false. The using sharpies on ballots story was nothing. Not a single god damn thing the right has thrown at the wall has fucking stuck. Give it up. You lost. Because Trump is a shitty candidate who does not know how to fucking lead. Your man lost to a senile old man, you should be hanging your head in shame. 'MURICA voted and told the orange man to GTFO.

There were so many things Trump could have done to actually not piss people off and promote Freedom that he did not. The republicans should probably figure out WTF they can actually get in front of culturally to get voters. They can do it, they refuse not to. Learn to read how America is changing, and figure out how to court the new voters.

Braineack 11-12-2020 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1585779)
Because Trump is a shitty candidate who does not know how to fucking lead.

2016: 62,984,828
2020: 72,460,799*

9,425,971 more votes for him this year.

Obama:
2008: 69,498,516
2012: 65,915,795

3,581,721 LESS votes

So was it really referendum on Trump?

meanwhile:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...O1eTw2-lMF0rqE


Pennsylvania court: Secretary of state lacked authority to change deadline 2 days before Election Day

Judge ruled ballots that were previously set aside should not be counted



You can't call stories false, the absolute minute they are reported -- that's not how investigations work.


All I'm saying is wait until Dec 14 and the states have all certified their results. In the meantime, I'll continue to be skeptical of everything as usual.




https://scontent-bos3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5e&oe=5FD22BDD

Stock 11-12-2020 02:33 PM

lol.

shuiend 11-12-2020 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by stratosteve (Post 1584166)
Bets as to when Hunter is arrested or charged? I'm going with tomorrow. (Wed)

So you glad you didn't bet? Pretty sure Hunter is still not in jail. Also pretty sure absolutely nothing came out of the emails.

shuiend 11-12-2020 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1585782)
2016: 62,984,828
2020: 72,460,799*

9,425,971 more votes for him this year.


And still less then a senile old man. Hence why he lost. He is not even a good enough leader to come out and admit it.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1585782)
meanwhile:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...O1eTw2-lMF0rqE




You can't call stories false, the absolute minute they are reported -- that's not how investigations work.

I mean you can, when they are. Like the Biden emails. Because if there was something there Giuliani should have actually just released them all. As far as I know he has still not just dumped it all, and all the people he has shared it with have been silent.

Also i agree buracrats should not be changing dates of when ballets can come in, it should be the legislative branch. But ultimately it does not matter in that it is not enough votes to matter, and even if it flipped PA, Trump lost NV and AZ and does not have enough votes to win. So he still lost.

Padlock 11-12-2020 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1585779)
Every "dead person" the right media has flouted has turned out to be false.

My grandmother, who has been dead for 2 years, had a stimulus check mailed to her.... I have zero reason to lie about it. In fact, her check came months before my parents (whom are both living) received a dime. Leave it to the government.

Braineack 11-12-2020 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1585785)
And still less then a senile old man. Hence why he lost. He is not even a good enough leader to come out and admit it.

I truly doubt a Republican will ever win the popular vote ever again. I never expected him to this year.

2016: 62,984,828
2020: 72,460,799*

is a 15% gain.

2016:
65,853,514 (beloved Clinton)
2020: 77,695,363 (milquetoast Biden)

is a 18% gain.

Not quite as well, but not awful -- this is also assuming the vote counts are accurate.

Bajingo 11-12-2020 02:53 PM

Decent chance a Republican will never win the president again.

shuiend 11-12-2020 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Padlock (Post 1585786)
My grandmother, who has been dead for 2 years, had a stimulus check mailed to her.... I have zero reason to lie about it. In fact, her check came months before my parents (whom are both living) received a dime. Leave it to the government.

I was specifically talking about voting.

Any election fraud that did possibly happen, is not enough on any sort of a scale to give Trump a way to win. He lost to many states.

Braineack 11-12-2020 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1585791)
Any election fraud that did possibly happen, is not enough on any sort of a scale to give Trump a way to win. He lost to many states.

PA announced a review of the election results this am. Plus that court order just now.

Let's just say that flips the state back to Trump, that drops Biden from 279 to 259, and Trump from 232 to 252.

no winner.

GA announced a hand recount yesterday.

Let's say that flips the state back to Trump as well, that's 259 to 268.


NZ, AZ, and MI all have active lawsuits. MN is recounting. Anything can happen at this point, and may uncover more uncertainties for the future...

will it? dunno; we have to wait and see and wait until all states have certified their results -- as the law says.

poormxdad 11-12-2020 03:07 PM

The dimocrats used C19 to push mail-in voting on the states they controlled because they knew they couldn't beat Trump in a fair fight. What they didn't expect was that Trump would win so handily that they would have to go full tilt on the fraud at the last minute. Now they're caught. This a good read. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ng-mail-ballot

Biden was picked for multiple reasons. He's easily manipulated. He won't make it very much longer. And, most importantly, chosing him as their candidate makes Trump look like he's breaking that non-existent law about investigating your political rivals when he talks about the Biden family dealings with Ukraine and Chiner. If Joe goes down, a whole bunch of people go down, on both sides.

The dims never wanted to win honestly. That's why Sleepy Joe would never tell anyone about whether or not he'd pack the court, among other things. They made it so Trump would win, but all the polls said Trump would lose, so it had to be illegitimate. Why in God's name would they choose the only "woman of color" in the US that's not only NOT African American--her father is of Jamaican descent so he's a Brit--but also her great, great, great grandfather trafficked in African slaves? Her mom is from India. She's a frickin' unicorn, and her choice as VP should be looked at as a slap in the face to every African American in this country. Maybe that's one reason why Trump got so much of the African American vote.

Now, Trump is letting the Biden people tell everyone in Georgia what they're going to do when Old Joe is inaugurated in January. The Georgia runoffs will be the most observed/witnessed elections in history. I'm confident we'll have Trump for four more years, and we'll take the two senate seats in GA.

Braineack 11-12-2020 03:14 PM

She was the first to drop out of the Democratic Presidency race -- D voters FULLY rejected her.

The idea that some of you don't want to audit/validate the results, or think it's insane to possible question and ask for and audit/validation, is pretty insane.

I probably built more logic/validation/error checking to make sure someone couldn't double-book the fucking racquetball court here, than error checking the last-minute mail-in ballots for a Presidential election.

capitalcrew 11-12-2020 03:16 PM

You know what, that seems likely. Great points

poormxdad 11-12-2020 03:17 PM

Also, the down ballot statistics in the swing states, and only those swing states, are suspect.

For example, if there were 100,000 votes for Trump in a precinct, there were also roughly 100,000 votes for the republican congressional candidates. But if there were 100,000 votes for Biden, why are there only 80 or 90 thousand votes for the dim congressional candidates? It only seems to have happened in those five states under scrutiny right now.

Braineack 11-12-2020 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by poormxdad (Post 1585796)
For example, if there were 100,000 votes for Trump in a precinct, there were also roughly 100,000 votes for the republican congressional candidates. But if there were 100,000 votes for Biden, why are there only 80 or 90 thousand votes for the dim congressional candidates? It only seems to have happened in those five states under scrutiny right now.

I always thought it was odd that the suspect states were all the ones that delayed or still haven't announced a winner.

poormxdad 11-12-2020 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1585797)
I always thought it was odd that the suspect states were all the ones that delayed or still haven't announced a winner.

Yes... but they were able to count the down ballot votes, which came in on the same ballots. WTF?

Has anyone seen changes to down ballot results due to the delayed counts?

LeoNA 11-12-2020 03:26 PM

Again if you were an incumbent would you consider coronavirus a plus to your re-election? Obvious not. This was retaliation by china. Biden did not win on his own merit. He did not win without the help of the media and china. Now lets see what everyone's opinion is in 6mos to a year. They certainly won't be buying turbo kits in the midst of a recession.

Braineack 11-12-2020 03:35 PM

please ignore this:


Braineack 11-12-2020 03:40 PM

Also, should Joe Biden be impeached for violating the Logan Act?

Bajingo 11-12-2020 03:51 PM

My biggest thing is Trump won Florida easily. How the hell are the rest of the swing states so close when Florida is clearly Trump.


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