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Old 11-22-2013, 10:12 AM   #901
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Dangerous Games - "Point 'em Out, Knock 'em Out"

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It's a "game" that has been growing with popularity on the internet, with teenagers filming themselves punching unsuspecting victims...

...The victim was attacked by 17-year-old Marvell Weaver. But Weaver did more than try to knock his victim out, he tried to do it with a taser. Luckily for the victim, the taser didn't work and he was able to protect himself with his concealed-carry .40 caliber pistol.

"He shoved something into my side. I wasn't sure what it was. It had some force to it. I wasn't sure if it was a knife or a gun," said the victim.

Weaver was shot twice, in the leg and an inch away from his spine. He's been sentenced to a year in jail for the attack, but he admits he's getting off easy.

"It was just a lesson learned. I wish I hadn't played the game at all," said Weaver.

But Weaver say's this wasn't the first time he'd played it. Before he was caught, he and his friends had attacked random people on several occasions.

and the typical left reaction to it:



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I ultimately, I’ve moved past it and I really have no hard feelings about what has happened. And I just see it as another reason why we need to better support our youth with activities and youth programs, which is actually what I do for work, and it’s great to see teenagers do incredible things when they’re supported and empowered
white guilt is an awful disease.

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white guilt is an awful disease.
This is minority privilege
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Well, I'm glad that automatically resized to the point of being illegible.

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Old 12-06-2013, 09:39 AM   #905
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Here is Sgt. Brian Deiniger of the Dallas PD. He has a very poor grasp on the law.
Texas penal code 42.01 a(8) states:
(8) displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm
Definition of "calculated" in Blacks Law Dictionary:
Carefully planned or intended
So, just having someone alarmed by a display doesn't have any relevance on whether or not the offending individual did it in a calculated, carefully planned and intended way.
In Texas we have the right to open carry a rifle.
If we have that right, I wonder how Mr Deiniger thinks it could be exercised without being guilty of Disorderly Conduct? I promise he doesnt have a good answer for that. He is wrong in his interpretation.
Definition of "breach of the peace" in Blacks Law Dictionary:
The offense of breaking or disturbing the public peace by any riotous, forcible, or unlawful proceeding.
Richard did not act in a riotous, forcible, or unlawful manner.
Obviously not guilty of Disturbing The Peace.
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Bateman On Guns - It's Time We Talk About Guns - Esquire


Wow! And this guy swore to defend the Constitution.
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Unarmed Man Goes On Shooting Rampage | National Review Online

Liberal logic at its best.

It gets worse.

Initially Mr. Broadnax was arrested on misdemeanor charges of menacing, drug possession and resisting arrest. But the Manhattan district attorney’s office persuaded a grand jury to charge Mr. Broadnax with assault, a felony carrying a maximum sentence of 25 years. Specifically, the nine-count indictment unsealed on Wednesday said Mr. Broadnax “recklessly engaged in conduct which created a grave risk of death.”

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I think the cop was pretty reasonable. I appreciate what they are trying to do but at the same time, a couple of those guys were annoying and argumentative. that officer defused the situation and sent them on their way good job. if you are trying to exercise your right and educate the public they last thing you want it to be arrested. I'm pretty pro 2nd amendment but I'm not sure about open carry in general, especially in urban locations. concealed carry is another story, all for it.
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Pay attention to California order in waiting period case - Seattle gun rights | Examiner.com

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Here, in part, is what Senior Judge Anthony Ishii of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California, said in his order denying a motion to dismiss the case called Silvester v. Harris, which challenges California’s ten-day waiting period law (WPL) on the delivery of a firearm:

“The WPL as applied against those who have previously purchased firearms or who possess certain state licenses is the equivalent of a prior restraint, and thus should be analyzed under strict scrutiny. However, under either strict scrutiny or intermediate scrutiny, the WPL fails. In terms of strict scrutiny, Harris has not shown that the law is effective either in reducing gun violence or in keeping firearms out of the hands of unqualified purchasers where the government has already issued that purchaser a License To Carry or a Certificate Of Eligibility.”

The defendant in this case is California Attorney General Kamala Harris, who has been defending the Golden State’s 10-day waiting period on every firearm transaction. She filed a motion to dismiss the case, filed almost two years ago by the CalGuns Foundation, chaired by Gene Hoffman; SAF, headed by Alan Gottlieb, and three individual plaintiffs, including Jeff Silvester, for whom the case is named.

Judge Ishii elsewhere observed in his 11-page order, “The WPL prohibits every person who purchases a firearm from taking possession of that firearm for a minimum of 10 days. That is, there is a period of at least 10 days in which California prohibits every person from exercising the right to keep and bear a firearm. There can be no question that actual possession of a firearm is a necessary prerequisite to exercising the right to keep and bear arms. Further, there has been no showing that the Second Amendment, as historically understood, did not apply for a period of time between the purchase/attempted purchase of a firearm and possession of the firearm…

“…Although Harris argues that the WPL is a minor burden on the Second Amendment, Plaintiffs are correct that this is a tacit acknowledgment that a protected Second Amendment right is burdened. Therefore, the Court concludes that the WPL burdens the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.”
I dunno where the **** this logic came from, but I applaud it wholeheartedly.
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Concha: Newtown 911 Calls, Like 9/11 Jumpers, Should Never, Ever Be Aired | Mediaite
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No media outlet should play any portion, even if carefully avoiding what Fox’s Shep Smith characterized as “the most gut-wrenching” aspects of the Newtown 911 calls.

To that end, CBS, CNN and Fox all have played them in small doses. Most web publications, where readers have the option (key word) to play the audio or not, are offering access to the calls, including Gawker and the online version of The New Haven Register, and this publication. But other media outlets, such as ABC and NBC News, have announced they will not play any audio of the calls, relying on reporters to describe the calls secondhand instead.
And here we are, not even two weeks out from these media geniuses craving the ratings that playing these calls would bring, and we have another school shooting incident. When are we going to admit that the media is ultimately the problem here? In other countries, they don't relish in the personal details and motives of the killer. They grieve with the families of the deceased.

How The Media Coverage Of Mass Shootings Makes Everything Worse
Mass shooting and mass media: Does media coverage of mass shootings inspire copycat crimes? | Alex Mesoudi - Academia.edu

Edit: Colorado Sheriff wants to "know why" http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/14/us/col...hool-shooting/
And in the very same article they talk about the killer, his motivation, his personal life, and past school shooters. IT'S YOUR ******* FAULT, MEDIA! QUIT GLORIFYING THESE *****!

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Bang! Payday for man suing cops over guns

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A man who sued police in Colorado Springs, Colo., for violating his Second Amendment rights has reportedly won more than $23,000 from the city, as local officers apparently did not know it was legal to “open carry” firearms at public parks.
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Colorado school shooting: Armed guards the answer? - CSMonitor.com

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According to The Christian Science Monitor, the school's armed guard began running toward the sound of the shooter as soon as the first shots were fired. Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson said that as a result of the guard's action, "the heavily-armed shooter realized he was about to be confronted by an armed officer and took his own life."

On December 21, 2012, the National Rifle Association's Wayne LaPierre responded to the heinous crime at Sandy Hook Elementary by stressing the need for armed guards in America's schools. Said LaPierre, "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
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Dallas Store Manager Fends Off 5 Armed Robbers with .38 Revolver, Wounding One; Police Arrive 74 Minutes Later A Dallas store manager using his handgun to fend off an attempted robbery by five armed robbers. There’s also audio of the 911 call from the Dallas store manager asking for police help because of the robbery. Reports indicate he asked for police to come because the armed men had tried to rob his store. The store manager shot at the men with a .38 Caliber revolver, sending the robbers scurrying away, and wounding one of them twice. But his call was misclassified because the operator did not understand he was saying in his frantic call that he had shot one of the robbers, and it took police an hour to arrive. In fact, it was so long, the manager went home and was called back by police when the did arrive. It takes a “good guy with a gun” to ward off five armed robbers.
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what happens when you legally open carry while fishing?

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That's a good question, because I was not aware that Florida is an open-carry state.

Apparently, it's legal if you are "engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition." I'll have to read the rest of the statute because that seems awfully vague and hard to disprove you aren't always eventually going to or returning from one of those activities.

I also imagine it was written with the intention of allowing open carry when in the wilderness, not when fishing from a neighborhood retention pond.

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But a FL carry permit is so easy to get.
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That's a good question, because I was not aware that Florida is an open-carry state.

Apparently, it's legal if you are "engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition." I'll have to read the rest of the statute because that seems awfully vague and hard to disprove you aren't always eventually going to or returning from one of those activities.

I also imagine it was written with the intention of allowing open carry when in the wilderness, not when fishing from a neighborhood retention pond.

Chapter 790 Section 25 - 2012 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate
Correct on all accounts Scrappy. My license if from FL and it is not a traditional open carry state.

This is another example of somebody skirting the letter/intent of the law, and while not doing anything technically illegal, encounters law enforcement who either doesn't know, or does know and is more concerned with the scared citizens calling 911.

I would find it difficult to believe that as carry of all forms become more and more popular, local police agencies haven't spelled it out loud and clear to their officers exactly how they will handle incidents. We all know however that sometimes it takes a few lawsuits to get the mayor/chief/DA off their asses and make sure officers are towing the line.
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the last time I heard someone use the phrase "skirting the intent of the law" was the president of my condo association, who was a cop, in response to the letter we sent from our lawyer about breaking the bylaws of our condo agreement and got pissed we would always call him out on it and make our neighbors aware of the **** he was trying to get away with.


anyway, the law is clear. if there's an exception for fishing, there's an exception for fishing. I mean, he had a license to fish approved by the state... there's no skirting the law.

he was engaged in fishing. the law says:

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it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes:

(h) A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition;
so there's no skirting. If you don't want people open carrying in a retention pond, either change the law, or ban fishing from these ponds. (because banning fishing at ponds also bans gun crimes).

There's also video from him on the same day in a different county, being approached and not hassled in the least bit.

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Braineack - I agree with your assessment of, "if you don't like the law, change it" but I think you are arguing the wrong thing with Sam and I.

All three of us agree that it sounds like he was completely in the right as far as the law goes. What I was saying, and what Sam wrote, was about the legality of his actions probably not being part of the intent of the law.

As we all know, laws and regulations often come with plenty of unintended consequences.
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gotcha. correct. sucks for them. always carry both a gun and fishing pole.
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